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02/29/2008 10:30:21 PM · #1
On a negative note, I shot a friend of a friend today for cheap. I've never met her before today. I only charged her a $25 sitting fee, for which she gets 640x480 "proofs" emailed to her. Any prints will be worth my while in fees. The problem is, she wanted glamour shots (to make her pretty and to give to her husband for a gift), yet she refused to smile, she looks downright grumpy in every picture. She wants her acne gone, some weight lost and the stains removed from her tank top. Yeah, it wasn't fun. She also wanted just a head shot for an alumni page with all of the above done to that one too (she says she'll never see the people in person again, so they don't need to know how bad she looks now). So, I have 45 very badly posed, angry looking photo's that I'm not sure I can make look even remotely good. I'm contemplating giving her the $25 back.

Can anyone give me some how to advise in PS CS for actually thinning a face, or using the liquefy tool to make that grumpy face look somewhat provocative or at least happy? Any suggestions at all would be helpful. Here's an example of what I have to work with, this is unedited, just converted to .jpeg and resized.
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02/29/2008 10:37:15 PM · #2
I"m sure you could improve the skin, but the grumpy look is hard to get past. Even if you used the liquify tool to create a hint of a smile, it wouldn't make her eyes smile.

I'm sorry I'm no help at all :-(
02/29/2008 10:40:43 PM · #3
Originally posted by Beetle:

I"m sure you could improve the skin, but the grumpy look is hard to get past. Even if you used the liquify tool to create a hint of a smile, it wouldn't make her eyes smile.

I'm sorry I'm no help at all :-(


I know! I don't get why someone would pay for a photographer to come to their house and then not even try to look happy. I could make her laugh and smile as long as I wasn't looking through the camera. As soon as my eye hit the viewfinder, this is the expression I got. I'm stumped, really.
02/29/2008 10:44:48 PM · #4
Maybe she didn't want to smile in the pics, i would do what you can and see what she thinks. You might be surprised to find that she wanted them that way, some people don't like their own smile. good luck!
02/29/2008 10:51:45 PM · #5
Give Portrait Professional a try.
02/29/2008 11:03:07 PM · #6
This is a bit of an edit I did... I was listening to my NYIP lesson and feeling inspired do here you go... would have been better with the full res file:)
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eta: btw I used portrait pro 6 on the face

Message edited by author 2008-02-29 23:03:44.
02/29/2008 11:13:51 PM · #7
I used Feivels Gothic Glow (a Photoshop action - you can google it) and then converted it to B&W:

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Then, just to see what it would look like, I copied the B&W layer over top of the original and changed the layer blending mode to Luminosity to get this image:

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Total time spent: Maybe 30 seconds. (I spent more time telling you what I did than the amount of time it took to do it)

Message edited by author 2008-02-29 23:15:16.
02/29/2008 11:16:50 PM · #8
Maybe her husband likes that. Sort of like, "You know you want me, but you can't have me" look.
02/29/2008 11:20:41 PM · #9
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My 3 minute take on the shot. Virtual Photographer can be your friend sometimes. :) This is a few healing brushes to help with the complexion and then a layer using the Ambiance filter followed by a layer with the Fall Colors filter.
02/29/2008 11:22:31 PM · #10
Total hack job, small image to start with, but this may be saved :-)

I did use an expensive filter at first to even tones and give the glow (Imagenomic Portraiture) but the same can be done using regular PS tools (just takes longer). Then I did use the liquify tool; bit of smile on the mouth and eyes, opened up eyes a bit too. Then some dodging on the irises to lighten the eyes. And on dark roots. Did a bit of gaussian blur on parts of face to smooth more. Finally, adjusted color to take the rudiness down more. Took about 5 minutes. If I was doing this seriously on a real image, I'd use some different techniques that would yield better results and I'd take a lot longer in all honesty :-) If she wants to be glammed up, you need to charge!!
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02/29/2008 11:28:19 PM · #11
I absolutely love to edit headshots! Here's my take on it:

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02/29/2008 11:29:50 PM · #12
I'm not very good at this at all, but I took dwterry's color version, selected the lips, and used edit>distort and warped the grid to get a hint of a smile, then used the healing brush tool to heal the areas around the lips so there weren't ghosts. I have never doen this before, so it seems to me there's potential in that approach...

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R.
02/29/2008 11:31:56 PM · #13
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Took the Original post and applied the following in CS2:
Neat Image
Virtual Photographer (Ambiance)
A little spot healing
Xero Filter (porcelain)
02/29/2008 11:33:49 PM · #14
I looked at my edit again and I wasn't totally happy, so I just tweaked a few things. Here it is again, I smoothed out her skin a bit more and adjusted the color:

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Message edited by author 2008-02-29 23:59:44.
02/29/2008 11:52:52 PM · #15
A quick edit

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03/01/2008 12:15:15 AM · #16
Here is my 15 minutes worth...

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03/01/2008 12:17:29 AM · #17
These are all fantastic. Is there a tutorial on how to open the eyes somewhere, or could someone explain it in detail? I'm going to bed for tonight, but I'll probably be bugging at least of few of you for details tomorrow (unless you post them in your edit, and thanks to those who have done that!). For those that added that touch of smile, did you use the liquify tool? If so, which brush do you use to do this? I appreciate the help guys and gals. Thanks!
03/01/2008 12:21:59 AM · #18
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Message edited by author 2008-03-01 00:23:36.
03/01/2008 01:06:05 AM · #19
Originally posted by cgino:

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Wow, what a difference opening the eyes makes! The rest of the edits are great but that grumpy expression is still there and draws the eye from the lovely improvements. But this lets everything tie together nicely.... it really is amazing how making one or two small changes can affect everything.

I liked dwterry's b&w feivel's, too. That's a neat plug-in... I really should play with it more :)
03/01/2008 01:26:21 AM · #20
Originally posted by dwterry:

Give Portrait Professional a try.


dwterry has good advice! I recently purchased it and you can slim faces and change expressions with it. It is really a good program.
03/01/2008 02:42:35 AM · #21
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messed around real quick threw in a smile almost looks ok slightly off
03/01/2008 03:07:43 AM · #22
Originally posted by dwterry:

Give Portrait Professional a try.

This program is fun and easy and seems to be very effective. Here's my version of your shot after using Portrait Professional.

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BTW: I used Portrait Professional quite conservatively. I smoothed the skin quite a bit, slimmed the face slightly, widened the eyes slightly, and gave the mouth a little more pleasant expression. Certainly more could have been done, but I thought it should still look recognizable as your client.

Message edited by author 2008-03-01 03:19:21.
03/01/2008 05:08:39 AM · #23
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I suppose I did a lot of footwork that these wossname pro things might have done for me.

Lasso the right arm, minus a couple of hair strands, colour it up a bit.
Blur tool on the wrinkles under the neck.
Lasso the face, minus eyes, eyebrows and lips. Gaussian blur. Blur tool on the pimples. Reverse selection and burn the eyebrows. Sharpen. I think I ended up dragging the blur tool gently over the lips in the end because I heard somewhere: 'either lips or eyes but not both' (?)
Cloned out the bra strap.
Cheated a mild smile (bet that hurt) with the liquifier.
Lassoed the eyes, one at a time or all at once. Ctrl-T expand (or something, make them bigger anyway, preferably in the form of opening up a bit).
Burn around the eyes after flattening the image.
Lasso and lighten the dirty t-shirt
'ave a little sharpen...

Being fat and scabby and asking for glamour shots is a bit of a laugh.
03/01/2008 05:22:48 AM · #24
Originally posted by cgino:

Then I did use the liquify tool; bit of smile on the mouth and eyes, opened up eyes a bit too.

The liquify tool did the eye-opening bit?
03/01/2008 05:35:46 AM · #25
Terry needs a title like master or sinsai
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