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03/03/2008 01:32:44 PM · #1
I need help on calibration. If you have time please give me some advice. I will give you an example below.

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1. On your monitor does this picture appear to be:
a. To Dark.
b. Exposure Ok.
c. To Light.

2. What type(s) of monitor(s) are you viewing the above picture with:
a. LCD
b. CRT
c. Both

The reason for asking, I'm not sure if my monitor is calibrated correctly. I have calibrated it using Adobe Calibrator and it appears to be ok on my screen but when I print it prints much darker. To get the monitor and printer to match (exposure) I had to boost up the brightness of the photo 50% in CS3.

So I may have a monitor calibration problem or a printer setting/profile problem, I can't seem to resolve the issue.

NOTE: Windows, Shooting in RAW, Using CS3, Using 22" LCD monitor, Printer is a HPC8180 (six cartridge system) photo printer.

If you have time to help with my problem I would like to thank you in advance.
Scott

03/03/2008 01:54:07 PM · #2
Looks perfect to me. I am using an LCD. Beautiful place to shoot.
03/03/2008 02:09:52 PM · #3
It looks fine to me, Scott. I can see details in the shadows and the highlights aren't blown out. The long needle Ponderosa Pine in the foreground looks a bit oversharp. I'm looking at it on an LCD monitor. This is a lovely spot!
03/03/2008 02:11:09 PM · #4
Looks pretty good to me on my calibrated LCD at work. I have two uncalibrated monitors at home, one with a dim backlight, so I'll try to remember to look at it again this evening.
03/03/2008 02:41:21 PM · #5
Looks good to me, I have an LCD monitor. Not calibrated.
03/03/2008 02:48:27 PM · #6
looks fine to me on a calibrated LCD.
03/03/2008 02:55:17 PM · #7
Scott - the detail from the top of the canyon down seems perfect - above looks like a little "milky mist" has crept in - LCD monitor (Dell ultrasharp) and spyderPro2 calibrated. REALLY great shot!!
03/03/2008 02:58:46 PM · #8
It looks good to me. I have two LCD's, one Samsung and one Dell.
03/03/2008 03:05:22 PM · #9
Thanks everyone for your help. It must be my printer profile settings. Off to the manual to find out how to calibrate the printer.

Thanks,
Scott
03/03/2008 03:35:28 PM · #10
#1 = B
#2 = A

Seems fine on my end.
03/03/2008 03:37:20 PM · #11
I really don't know of what I speak, but what color profile do you have it in? Perhaps someone with more knowledge could help you with that regarding printing.
03/03/2008 03:37:33 PM · #12
b, a
03/03/2008 03:39:06 PM · #13
What printer are you using? There can be issues with some print drivers so it may not be the profile at all, but the driver or settings therein.
03/03/2008 03:42:21 PM · #14
Same here....looks good, LCD.
03/03/2008 03:44:19 PM · #15
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

What printer are you using? There can be issues with some print drivers so it may not be the profile at all, but the driver or settings therein.


That I don't know. I don't know how to view or setup my profile for print.

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

What printer are you using? There can be issues with some print drivers so it may not be the profile at all, but the driver or settings therein.


HP C8180 (six cartridge photo printer) wifi
03/03/2008 03:47:13 PM · #16
Originally posted by SDW:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

What printer are you using? There can be issues with some print drivers so it may not be the profile at all, but the driver or settings therein.


That I don't know. I don't know how to view or setup my profile for print.

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

What printer are you using? There can be issues with some print drivers so it may not be the profile at all, but the driver or settings therein.


HP C8180 (six cartridge photo printer) wifi


When you select a photo to print, a window pops up where you can select properties for the printer. This opens the print driver.

What software are you printing from? What colour management are you using? If using PS, always use Print with profile and if your print driver behaves properly, under colour management indicate that PS is managing it.
03/03/2008 04:18:19 PM · #17
Thanks ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', '/') + 1) . ' cpanaioti

Here are my setting when I select print from CS3

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When I print Adobe displays the following box

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ETA: In CS3 my Color Settings are as follows

Settings: North America General Purpose 2

Working Spaces
RGB: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
CMYK: U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2
Gray: Dot Grain 20%
Spot: Dot Grain 20%

Color Management Policies
RGB: Preserve Embedded Profiles
CMYK: Preserve Embedded Profiles
Gray: Preserve Embedded Profiles

Profile Mismatches: []Ask When Opening []Ask When Pasting
Missing Profiles: []Ask When Opening

non of the options checked in Profile Mismatches or Missing Profiles.




Message edited by author 2008-03-03 16:28:15.
03/03/2008 04:32:53 PM · #18
You're selecting sRGB as the printer profile.

You need to select the printer profile based on the paper and inks being used. There was probably a profile installed when you installed the printer. Better yet, there may be a set of profiles installed so you can select based on the paper being used.

Make sure the paper selection is right as well.

ETA: make sure colour management is turned off in the print driver.

Message edited by author 2008-03-03 16:35:11.
03/03/2008 07:39:10 PM · #19
Thanks everyone for your input and help. I printed another copy and the exposure and color appears to be very close to web version. I can see the details in the shadow areas now.
03/03/2008 09:52:30 PM · #20
Well, even though you solved your issue, I already looked at it on my home monitors, so...

Ont he 15" that is fine, it looks close tot what the one at work showed me. Not quite as crisp and detailed, but close. On the 17" wit the bad backlight I can tell I am missing some fine detail in the shadow areas of the cliff face. (I check my colors on the small monitor when editing challenge entries) The 17" was fine for general use, but now that I am editing photos, it's time for a new monitor.
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