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07/11/2008 03:02:52 AM · #1
i have two younger brothers and playing with toy guns is just a boy thing! all of my brothers have been playing with plastic firearms since we were little, and now I want to buy some toy guns for them , Just like this super gun:
//www.sourcingmap.com/toy-super-submachine-gun-electrical-motivated-army-military-equipment-p-16517.html
but I was so surprised and astonished at their talk at the Capital that they were going to ban toy guns,because they look too much like real guns. One store in my area has already pulled the toy guns off the shelves. The police are saying that it is hard for people and for the cops to tell the difference if a car is just driving by, etc…
why they do this???
Do you think they should be banned?
How about violence on TV, and video games, how do you think it is impacting children?

Message edited by author 2008-07-11 05:46:19.
07/11/2008 03:37:58 AM · #2
What sort of country would ban toys guns but not real guns :)
07/11/2008 04:00:20 AM · #3
Originally posted by marbo:

What sort of country would ban toys guns but not real guns :)

and... real fruit in shampoos but artificial fruit flavoring in our juice drinks ;)
07/11/2008 04:00:52 AM · #4
I'm against banning things, censoring things, blocking things. I don't think it have the productive intent that people wish it did. The dirt never disappeared from under grandmothers rug as much as she stomped on it. The fact that toy guns are popular is a product of society not some magical lure of the guns themselves. In society it is normal and expected for a boy to aspire to being a strong hero like figure, a soldier, police officer, evil scientist... oh that was just me... If people really want to stop toy guns or whatever they need to stop glorifying it as a proper way of life for children to want to grow up to become.
07/11/2008 04:04:51 AM · #5
I don't think that playing with toy guns would make them violent and like they said... just because you play with "violent" things doesn't make you a violent person.

Message edited by author 2008-07-11 04:10:16.
07/11/2008 04:09:20 AM · #6
I think the problem comes when toy guns are so lifelike that the average Joe in the street can't tell whether it is a real one or a toy. Toy guns here in the UK became increasingly like replica guns, but I haven't seen one for ages - perhaps they have been banned. When I was a child we played with toy guns, but they were so clearly toys that they couldn't be mistaken for anything else.
07/11/2008 04:12:35 AM · #7
I'm very glad they are out of the stores here in Holland for a very long time. They did that because they look too much like the real stuff.

I think it's so weird that everyone can walk around in USA with a gun, they better start banning those too over there.
07/11/2008 04:16:54 AM · #8
did anyone actually clicked to see that toy gun Tanky was referring to?
it is so obviously a toy... i've played with more convincing toy guns when i was little.
are people getting more paranoid today?

Message edited by author 2008-07-11 04:30:19.
07/11/2008 04:51:01 AM · #9
When I was a kid we played with toy guns all the time - and the more realistic looking and sounding, the better. We had all out culdesac wars and built gokart tanks and flour bombs. Realistic looking guns have been around for a long time and occasionally if a kid (or adult) is stupid enough to point one at a Police Officer... Well it would be just as stupid to point a salami at a cop in a threatening manner.

I'm not sure of either the benefit or the harm of kids playing with toy guns, but I certainly don't want the government banning more things and if you are someone who is in favor of government bans on things you feel are bad for society, wouldn't it be logical to prioritize a list and start with the things that we know cause the most damage? i.e. cigarettes, alcohol, etc.

edit to add: Hey crayon! Welcome back from...?

Message edited by author 2008-07-11 04:52:00.
07/11/2008 04:54:25 AM · #10
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

edit to add: Hey crayon! Welcome back from...?

had always been around, but banning of toy guns? i just had to comment :p
07/11/2008 04:55:22 AM · #11
Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

edit to add: Hey crayon! Welcome back from...?

had always been around, but banning of toy guns? i just had to comment :p


I think it's a guy/girls thing ;)

Guys love it, girls hate it :P
07/11/2008 04:56:09 AM · #12
Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

edit to add: Hey crayon! Welcome back from...?

had always been around, but banning of toy guns? i just had to comment :p

You always were a straight shooter. :)
07/11/2008 04:57:22 AM · #13
Originally posted by biteme:

I think it's a guy/girls thing ;)

Now that you mention it, I think they should ban Barbie's for looking too UNreal. :P
07/11/2008 04:58:24 AM · #14
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by biteme:

I think it's a guy/girls thing ;)

Now that you mention it, I think they should ban Barbie's for looking too UNreal. :P


Fine by me ;)
07/11/2008 05:06:39 AM · #15
I had guns and Barbie dolls when I was young, maybe it is why so many people don't seem to like me...

Best childhood toy, LEGO brand building blocks.

Worst childhood toy, Mad Scientist Chemistry Set* (do not mix with acid)... mixes with vinegar... Look mom green smoke *cough* my lungs are burning, mom! *cough hack cough*. No I didn't go that far but yes, it included Cyanide with a big warning not to mix it with acid... what is the first thing a kid does when told not to do something... they no longer sell that chemistry set...

* not actual name.
07/11/2008 05:14:32 AM · #16
LOL! My grandma got me a chemistry set and I don't want to brag, but I successfully developed a shrinking solution. Well it was partially succesful. On a frog. I mean the frog shrunk to half his original size, but he did not survive. And his skin was like charred leather. But undeterred, this led to my creation of the ultimate stink bomb!
07/11/2008 05:25:25 AM · #17
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

edit to add: Hey crayon! Welcome back from...?

had always been around, but banning of toy guns? i just had to comment :p

You always were a straight shooter. :)

i still remember you were the shoot "along the walls" type. less splash back? lol
07/11/2008 05:49:32 AM · #18
i have a crazy idea ,if I have a real gun ,i kill them.
07/11/2008 06:23:40 AM · #19
Originally posted by marbo:

What sort of country would ban toys guns but not real guns :)


Exactly my words - how absurd...
07/11/2008 06:29:43 AM · #20
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by biteme:

I think it's a guy/girls thing ;)

Now that you mention it, I think they should ban Barbie's for looking too UNreal. :P


Unreal
07/11/2008 06:30:30 AM · #21
Actually it makes sense to me from a mistaken identify angle. If toy guns look real kids could get shot, etc. I know over here, it is illegal for an adult to display a firearm publicly unless in the process of stopping a felony from taking place, since displaying the firearm could be used as a silent threat to others.

Simple solution, restrict gun ownership to adults only, toy or otherwise. The kids can play with rolling pins and eggs.
07/11/2008 06:32:34 AM · #22
I'm not for an all out ban but I would like to see parents not buy guns as a good parenting choice. Giving toy guns to kids only cements the ideology that guns are normal to have and normal for everyone to talk about and own as adults. I feel this is where we can make a difference in teaching our kids that guns have their purpose but not as play things, they should be seen as weapons of destruction, used in wars etc.

As for myself, I raised two sons without ever buying a gun for them to play, not a single weapon, ever. Their grandparents would sometimes buy them one but it would end up in the garbage the following day, with a nice speech/lecture about why I was throwing it away. Both my kids think owning guns is totally ridiculous today.

Limiting their use, to me would make sense. Not an all out ban though, you better ban the real thing too if we get to banning toy guns. Maybe toy gun manufacturers could make toy guns bright yellow only making it illegal for toy manufacturers to produce black toy guns that look real.

Message edited by author 2008-07-11 06:35:02.
07/11/2008 06:33:05 AM · #23
Originally posted by tanky:

i have a crazy idea ,if I have a real gun ,i kill them.


You sound familiar. Your sig looks familiar. You ever been a member here before now?
07/11/2008 06:34:30 AM · #24
Originally posted by fir3bird:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by biteme:

I think it's a guy/girls thing ;)

Now that you mention it, I think they should ban Barbie's for looking too UNreal. :P


Unreal


Geeze, that is just stupid. I am certain society will not get over its major issues until it stops treating everything like it is harmful. Bloody wonder our great ancestors managed to gut up the courage to crawl from under their rocks long enough to breed...
07/11/2008 06:48:05 AM · #25
Originally posted by Jac:

Giving toy guns to kids only cements the ideology that guns are normal to have


In my world they are quite normal to have.

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