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08/31/2008 01:58:43 PM · #326
Originally posted by egamble:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:



Clinton got a BJ and the only casualty was a stain on a dress and a pissed off wife.

Bush on the other hand started an unjustified and unnecessary war that cost tens and maybe hundreds of thousands of lives and many more injured and maimed.

Maybe you're so prude that the two are equal on moral terms, but it's probably more an indication of the prosaic nature of your own sex life and you're just jealous of Clinton.


I love you how people forget that CLINTON is the one who let Bib Laden get away when we had the ability to kill him.

Clinton is the person who let our national security dwindle so far that we were attacked on 9/11. (bush had only been in office for 8 1/2 months)

Sure..he had the economy on auto pilot, and that was nice, but Clinton isn't God Incarnate...and he didn't serve the perfect presidency. If it he had actually cared about National Security...we might not have been hit on 9/11

AS FOR THE BLOWJOB. This was in response to the attack on bush about Vacations. Neither the blowjob OR the vacation have anything to do with policy. Stop acting like they do.

If you are going to criticize the character of Bush over vacation time (you right should)....you should also stick to your guns and criticize Clinton over the adultery he committed in the White House. Instead...you turn a blind eye. Typical Liberals.


Hey, at least Clinton was at work when he took his recreation.

I love how you forget who trained and armed bin Laden along with most of the Taliban and al Quaeda in the first place. It was the US. During the Reagan administration. The same administration that promised the Mujaheddin our friendship for their efforts in fighting the Soviets during their occupation of Afghanistan. The same administration that showed itself (and the U.S.) as nothing more than a fair-weather friend by breaking all of their promises of friendship and partnership as soon as the last Soviet tank scooted across the border.

Let's see, was Reagan a Democrat? a Liberal? I don't think he was. I seem to remember him as both a conservative and a Republican. Typical Republicans: make the mess and blame the Democrats.
08/31/2008 02:15:55 PM · #327
Originally posted by Spazmo99:


Hey, at least Clinton was at work when he took his recreation.

I love how you forget who trained and armed bin Laden along with most of the Taliban and al Quaeda in the first place. It was the US. During the Reagan administration. The same administration that promised the Mujaheddin our friendship for their efforts in fighting the Soviets during their occupation of Afghanistan. The same administration that showed itself (and the U.S.) as nothing more than a fair-weather friend by breaking all of their promises of friendship and partnership as soon as the last Soviet tank scooted across the border.

Let's see, was Reagan a Democrat? a Liberal? I don't think he was. I seem to remember him as both a conservative and a Republican. Typical Republicans: make the mess and blame the Democrats.


-You are really arguing that it was fine for him to cheat on his wife, IN the white house, on the governments dime.....just because he was in the Oval Office? REALLY!?

-I didn't forget about anything. You assume that, because you are an ignorant American that only follows one party, that I am sort of religious Reagonite. Just because you place your trust in a party..doesn't mean that I do. Which is why I like both McCain..and the more than I hear about Palin...Palin as well. They have track records of smacking their own party in the mouth when they get out of line. Unlike Biden or Obama.

-Remember what we were talking about earlier? Who let Osama off the hook? Clinton.
08/31/2008 02:19:51 PM · #328
Originally posted by egamble:



-Remember what we were talking about earlier? Who let Osama off the hook? Clinton.


I only assume that you're ignorant. I'm pretty much on the money so far.

Who put the gun in bin Laden's hand and taught him to shoot? Reagan.
08/31/2008 03:52:18 PM · #329
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by egamble:



-Remember what we were talking about earlier? Who let Osama off the hook? Clinton.


I only assume that you're ignorant. I'm pretty much on the money so far.

Who put the gun in bin Laden's hand and taught him to shoot? Reagan.


Yea, we did. Nobody is disputing that. But he wasn't out enemy then..we were fighting a common enemy.
08/31/2008 04:45:43 PM · #330
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Let's see, was Reagan a Democrat? a Liberal? I don't think he was.

Actually, Reagan was not only a Democrat, he was President of his Union (Screen Actors Guild). Later in life he "flip-flopped" on his ideologies ...
08/31/2008 04:47:36 PM · #331
Originally posted by egamble:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by egamble:



-Remember what we were talking about earlier? Who let Osama off the hook? Clinton.


I only assume that you're ignorant. I'm pretty much on the money so far.

Who put the gun in bin Laden's hand and taught him to shoot? Reagan.


Yea, we did. Nobody is disputing that. But he wasn't out enemy then..we were fighting a common enemy.


The same Republican administration turned him into our enemy.

It's one thing to join together as allies in the fight against a common enemy, it's quite another to turn your back on that same ally who needs your help once the fighting is over.

Message edited by author 2008-08-31 17:19:21.
08/31/2008 04:48:19 PM · #332
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Let's see, was Reagan a Democrat? a Liberal? I don't think he was.

Actually, Reagan was not only a Democrat, he was President of his Union (Screen Actors Guild). Later in life he "flip-flopped" on his ideologies ...


That Reagan wasn't the Reagan in the White House.
09/02/2008 11:16:14 AM · #333
I wonder . . .

If it was a 17 year old daughter of the Obamas in the same situation, would the so called socail conservatives be as supportive as they are with Palin and her family? Or would we be hearing lectures on how liberalism in American has destroyed morality in our young people?

Just thinking.
09/02/2008 11:20:29 AM · #334
Originally posted by scarbrd:

I wonder . . .

If it was a 17 year old daughter of the Obamas in the same situation, would the so called socail conservatives be as supportive as they are with Palin and her family? Or would we be hearing lectures on how liberalism in American has destroyed morality in our young people?

Just thinking.


I wish I could say they would have dealt with it with teh same class that Obama did, but sadly, I really don't think they would have. :(
09/02/2008 01:47:56 PM · #335
Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by scarbrd:

I wonder . . .

If it was a 17 year old daughter of the Obamas in the same situation, would the so called socail conservatives be as supportive as they are with Palin and her family? Or would we be hearing lectures on how liberalism in American has destroyed morality in our young people?

Just thinking.


I wish I could say they would have dealt with it with teh same class that Obama did, but sadly, I really don't think they would have. :(


Honsety is always nice to see.

One thing to consider is that the Dems think they're going to win in a landslide while the desperate Repubs are scurrying to gather what momentum they can muster to be able to show their party members that they still have a chance at this. If the opposite were true I wonder how classy Obama would be? This is politics. They'll say and use any situation to their advantage and that's what Obama did here with the daughter story. I'll bet you he doesn't remain classy to the end if the polls start showing his lead tumbling.
09/02/2008 01:58:19 PM · #336
Originally posted by Jac:

Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by scarbrd:

I wonder . . .

If it was a 17 year old daughter of the Obamas in the same situation, would the so called socail conservatives be as supportive as they are with Palin and her family? Or would we be hearing lectures on how liberalism in American has destroyed morality in our young people?

Just thinking.


I wish I could say they would have dealt with it with teh same class that Obama did, but sadly, I really don't think they would have. :(


Honsety is always nice to see.

One thing to consider is that the Dems think they're going to win in a landslide while the desperate Repubs are scurrying to gather what momentum they can muster to be able to show their party members that they still have a chance at this. If the opposite were true I wonder how classy Obama would be? This is politics. They'll say and use any situation to their advantage and that's what Obama did here with the daughter story. I'll bet you he doesn't remain classy to the end if the polls start showing his lead tumbling.


The polls I've seen show it still a dead heat. CNN has them even. USA Today I think has Obama ahead.
09/02/2008 02:00:29 PM · #337
I keep seeing Reagan mentioned. I've read reports that say he was already suffering from Alzheimer's disease during his second term and quite frankly it was noticeable in some of his speeches near the end.

McCain is 72, just that fact should sway voters to the dems. Personally I would never vote for someone as old as McCain for this job. No problems with his age if he were running for senate, or governor, they're mostly puppet positions anyway.
09/02/2008 02:01:29 PM · #338
Originally posted by Jac:



One thing to consider is that the Dems think they're going to win in a landslide while the desperate Repubs are scurrying to gather what momentum they can muster to be able to show their party members that they still have a chance at this. If the opposite were true I wonder how classy Obama would be? This is politics. They'll say and use any situation to their advantage and that's what Obama did here with the daughter story. I'll bet you he doesn't remain classy to the end if the polls start showing his lead tumbling.


You've placed it in a nutshell. Say and do whatever to be elected, then wait for the special interest groups to line up for their payback. :/

My wife asked, "Why did McCain pick Palin?" I said, "I dunno...pandering perhaps?" While I value her pro-life stance, is she really qualified to be vice/president? Then again, we've had some real doozies over the last 200 years so if the next president flops, he won't be alone. Unispiring choices, all around.
09/02/2008 02:23:52 PM · #339
Originally posted by scarbrd:

The polls I've seen show it still a dead heat. CNN has them even. USA Today I think has Obama ahead.

Gallup, Washinton Post, Rasmussen and AP polls all have Obama leading.
09/02/2008 02:31:32 PM · #340
Originally posted by Jac:

One thing to consider is that the Dems think they're going to win in a landslide...


I'm just curious where you're getting this impression? I wish it were true (that the Dems win in a landslide), but I don't know any Democrats who are thinking that way.
09/02/2008 02:45:10 PM · #341
McCain ads? I thought this was going to be about oven chips.....
09/02/2008 02:49:10 PM · #342
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by scarbrd:

The polls I've seen show it still a dead heat. CNN has them even. USA Today I think has Obama ahead.

Gallup, Washinton Post, Rasmussen and AP polls all have Obama leading.


Yeah and it's been that way for a while sans one recent poll (CNN).

PollingReport.com - Presidential Trial Heat Summary

Message edited by author 2008-09-02 14:49:38.
09/02/2008 02:49:30 PM · #343
Originally posted by Judith Polakoff:

Originally posted by Jac:

One thing to consider is that the Dems think they're going to win in a landslide...


I'm just curious where you're getting this impression? I wish it were true (that the Dems win in a landslide), but I don't know any Democrats who are thinking that way.


I don't either.
09/02/2008 02:52:00 PM · #344
Originally posted by SaraR:

McCain ads? I thought this was going to be about oven chips.....


I'll go ahead and say it . . . WHAT?!?!?!?

I guess it's a Brit thing ;-)
09/02/2008 02:59:53 PM · #345
Originally posted by scarbrd:

Originally posted by SaraR:

McCain ads? I thought this was going to be about oven chips.....


I'll go ahead and say it . . . WHAT?!?!?!?

I guess it's a Brit thing ;-)

' . substr('//www.mccain.co.uk/assets/healthychips/ovenchips_large.jpg', strrpos('//www.mccain.co.uk/assets/healthychips/ovenchips_large.jpg', '/') + 1) . '
09/02/2008 04:17:18 PM · #346
Originally posted by scarbrd:

Originally posted by SaraR:

McCain ads? I thought this was going to be about oven chips.....


I'll go ahead and say it . . . WHAT?!?!?!?

I guess it's a Brit thing ;-)

McCain is a Canadian company, if you please.
09/02/2008 04:32:50 PM · #347
Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by scarbrd:

Originally posted by SaraR:

McCain ads? I thought this was going to be about oven chips.....


I'll go ahead and say it . . . WHAT?!?!?!?

I guess it's a Brit thing ;-)

McCain is a Canadian company, if you please.


Excuse me, a Commonwealth thing. ;-)
09/02/2008 04:40:45 PM · #348
Originally posted by scarbrd:

Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by scarbrd:

Originally posted by SaraR:

McCain ads? I thought this was going to be about oven chips.....


I'll go ahead and say it . . . WHAT?!?!?!?

I guess it's a Brit thing ;-)

McCain is a Canadian company, if you please.


Excuse me, a Commonwealth thing. ;-)


I think a bag of oven crisps would be the best candidate for the Republicans.
09/02/2008 04:54:28 PM · #349
I would vote for them, but only if they were "kettle-cooked". :)
09/02/2008 07:13:00 PM · #350
Originally posted by mpeters:

I would vote for them, but only if they were "kettle-cooked". :)


Are you kidding me... kettle-cooked chips do not have enough experience to run the country. We need a cracker... ritz perhaps to give us an air of sophistication.

Message edited by author 2008-09-02 19:16:14.
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