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08/29/2008 11:09:09 AM · #151
yahoo? bahoo.
08/29/2008 11:12:17 AM · #152
Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by dponlyme:

Oh and McCain is a war hero... bet you guys didn't know that. yeah... seems he was shot down and became a prisoner of war in vietnam... probably the first you've heard about that. Can't wait for the debates.


Surely you don't believe that a war hero is a standard upon which one should gauge the merits of becoming a president.

I have brothers that served in Vietnam with the USMC but considering the fact that they aren't American and have no money to talk of, I guess they can forget any aspirations they might have had to attain that office.

Ray


Not to be superfluous, but I'm pretty sure dp is being sarcastic with the war hero stuff.

Even most of the staunch Republicans I know are tired of hearing of it, and don't think it alone makes someone "worthy."
08/29/2008 11:15:32 AM · #153
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by scarbrd:

"Sen. John McCain picks Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate on GOP ticket for White House"

I guees the experience and ready to lead thing isn't as big of a deal as they've been saying.


WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Speculation about Sen. John McCain's choice for vice president intensified Friday with talk centering on darkhorse Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin amid reports that apparent frontrunners Mitt Romney and Tim Pawlenty were out.
Shortly after U.S. markets opened, CNBC reported that an anonymous GOP strategist with ties to the McCain camp believed the choice would be Palin.
Yet the Republican presidential nominee has kept his selection a closely guarded secret, and it's anything but certain who'll he will pick. McCain is slated to announce his running mate at noon Eastern time in Dayton, Ohio, just hours after the end of the Democratic convention.

What do you know that we don't?

R.


Well we don't really have time to go into all that ;-), but here's the scoop on the VP pick

//www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/palin.republican.vp.candidate/index.html

Message edited by author 2008-08-29 11:15:41.
08/29/2008 11:19:35 AM · #154
Interesting. Obama's VP represents the opposite of change while McCain's represents the opposite of experience. Maybe they could save money by swapping attack ads for a while. :-/
08/29/2008 11:24:14 AM · #155
Further though, Obama's pick made his administration more well rounded while McCain's pick is an appeal to get him more votes. IMHO of course.
08/29/2008 11:31:15 AM · #156
McCain says Obama isn't ready to be president?

"As for the prospect of her being vice president, Palin told Kudlow that she could not answer the question of whether she wanted the job “until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day.'"

Hello?
08/29/2008 11:34:08 AM · #157
Originally posted by scalvert:

Interesting. Obama's VP represents the opposite of change while McCain's represents the opposite of experience. Maybe they could save money by swapping attack ads for a while. :-/


The man turned 72 years old today, the oldest non-encumbant to receive a party's nomination. He's been railing against Obama for being too inexperienced to be commander in chief. Now he picks a 44 year old first term governor from a state with a total population smaller than Columbus, Ohio? mmmmmkay
08/29/2008 11:42:31 AM · #158
Originally posted by metatate:

Further though, Obama's pick made his administration more well rounded while McCain's pick is an appeal to get him more votes. IMHO of course.


again, perspective. I've heard that exact same thing about Obama's pick. ;)
08/29/2008 11:48:43 AM · #159
Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by metatate:

Further though, Obama's pick made his administration more well rounded while McCain's pick is an appeal to get him more votes. IMHO of course.

again, perspective. I've heard that exact same thing about Obama's pick. ;)

Um... why would any candidate choose a running mate that results in less votes?
08/29/2008 11:52:42 AM · #160
McCain thinks voters are idiots. I think he's relying on impulse voters and his base. Not issues. Again IMO.
08/29/2008 11:55:31 AM · #161
Do you mean fewer ;) ? (sorry my wife's an English teacher). What I'm saying is that his decision as a running mate was to try to pull in voters, not to make him a better president or to make America a better place.

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by metatate:

Further though, Obama's pick made his administration more well rounded while McCain's pick is an appeal to get him more votes. IMHO of course.

again, perspective. I've heard that exact same thing about Obama's pick. ;)

Um... why would any candidate choose a running mate that results in less votes?


Message edited by author 2008-08-29 11:57:09.
08/29/2008 12:03:14 PM · #162
Prediction:
McCain will win … Alaska that is.
08/29/2008 12:07:05 PM · #163
Originally posted by metatate:

Do you mean fewer ;)?

Fewer for Obama. Less for McCain. ;-)
08/29/2008 12:32:30 PM · #164
We are in rant after all ...
Here's my analysis of McCain's pick ...

1: McCain didn't want commercials of footage where his opponents slammed him in the primaries.

2: McCain wanted to "make some history" of his own (only vice presidential Republican woman nominee -not the first VP nom. ever though, obviously Geraldine Ferraro).

3: McCain wants to keep the oil companies funding him (Palin wants more drilling in Alaska - I wonder why)

4: McCain wants the white male vote (at least ignorant males can say they voted with their "id")

5: Obviously McCain wants any low-brow votes he can get based on the most obvious surface qualities of the candidates

6: McCain wanted to stymie the excitement about the DNC by announcing something unexpected on the very next day.

7: McCain realizes that an unknown woman is less vulnerable to attack than the average white politician.

just a thought =)
08/29/2008 12:44:29 PM · #165
wow ... just wow... with this pick I have lost all respect for McCain ... talk about pandering ...

Pander to the Hill supporters (because they were on board with Hill only because of plumbing and not issues)
Pander to white males (lets face it ... she is kinda hot AND she is a pilot).

Other than that she brings nothing to the table except being a water bearer for the neo-cons.

A heart-beat away huh ...Palin vs Putin... that would be scarry

Fact is thinking Americans (especially women) should be insulted by this pick.



08/29/2008 12:57:47 PM · #166
Originally posted by nomad469:

A heart-beat away huh ...Palin vs Putin... that would be scarry.

:-O
08/29/2008 01:02:57 PM · #167
Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by dponlyme:

Oh and McCain is a war hero... bet you guys didn't know that. yeah... seems he was shot down and became a prisoner of war in vietnam... probably the first you've heard about that. Can't wait for the debates.


Surely you don't believe that a war hero is a standard upon which one should gauge the merits of becoming a president.

I have brothers that served in Vietnam with the USMC but considering the fact that they aren't American and have no money to talk of, I guess they can forget any aspirations they might have had to attain that office.

Ray


Not to be superfluous, but I'm pretty sure dp is being sarcastic with the war hero stuff.

Even most of the staunch Republicans I know are tired of hearing of it, and don't think it alone makes someone "worthy."


You would be correct.
08/29/2008 01:03:23 PM · #168
Originally posted by nomad469:

wow ... just wow... with this pick I have lost all respect for McCain ... talk about pandering ...

Other than that she brings nothing to the table except being a water bearer for the neo-cons.


Isn't that the point of this pick, though, that she's a right-wing ideologue? Gotta fire up the base!

And she talks about being a reformer, of all things. 'Tis laughable!
08/29/2008 01:09:42 PM · #169
Originally posted by metatate:

McCain thinks voters are idiots. I think he's relying on impulse voters and his base. Not issues. Again IMO.


It pains me to say it, but never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. I mean, voting for George W. Bush once can be excused. After all, he did present himself as "a uniter, not a divider" and all that malarkey, and if you didn't know anything about him, you might have fallen for that. But to vote for him a second time? One either has to be deficient in intelligence or lacking a moral compass, or both.
08/29/2008 01:17:21 PM · #170
All right, All right... things just got way, way scarier. What do I do now? The thought of Gidget being a heart beat (and at 72 McCain is running out of them) away from the most powerful position in the world may be more scary than Obama in the presidency. At least I know he is a great politician if not a great public servant. I know absolutely nothing about her and not much time to form a true opinion. This was a horrible move for McCain. Meg Whitman would have been better. Throw me back into the pool of undecideds. Maybe we should change it to where there is an independent election for vice president I'd much rather have Biden in that position and McCain in the presidency. Is it too late to change the rules?
08/29/2008 01:24:12 PM · #171
Originally posted by dponlyme:

I'm no huge McCain fan but these ads are excellent. I think it shows the truth about Obama and his inexperience.

//www.youtube.com/v/RDVUPqoowf8&hl=en&fs=1

//www.youtube.com/v/-yYlzX2ZOLM&hl=en&fs=1


NOT SO EFFECTIVE ANYMORE
08/29/2008 01:34:48 PM · #172
Well, looks like McCain has locked up the "Guys hot for MILF's" vote.
08/29/2008 01:38:50 PM · #173
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Well, looks like McCain has locked up the "Guys hot for MILF's" vote.


Have you seen the demand for MILF's on the internet, that's apparently a huge demographic.
08/29/2008 01:40:41 PM · #174
Originally posted by dponlyme:

All right, All right... things just got way, way scarier. What do I do now? The thought of Gidget being a heart beat (and at 72 McCain is running out of them) away from the most powerful position in the world may be more scary than Obama in the presidency. At least I know he is a great politician if not a great public servant. I know absolutely nothing about her and not much time to form a true opinion. This was a horrible move for McCain. Meg Whitman would have been better. Throw me back into the pool of undecideds. Maybe we should change it to where there is an independent election for vice president I'd much rather have Biden in that position and McCain in the presidency. Is it too late to change the rules?


Darren, if you truly are undecided now, what remains your biggest concern about the Obama/Biden ticket?
08/29/2008 01:46:47 PM · #175
If McCain picked an old white guy he'd be mocked for sticking with the norm
If he picked a black person he'd be mocked for just countering Obama
If he picked a unattractive woman he'd be mocked for trying to get clinton voters

He was damned who ever he picked...

I do find it interesting that Obama picked an old, white, crusty, career senator, much like McCain and McCain picked a young, attractive new comer, much like Obama.
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