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09/25/2008 09:10:27 AM · #1
Just noticed this off of Yahoo...

Reuters pic:
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AP pic:
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09/25/2008 09:40:31 AM · #2
Looks like the original is Gray, the glare on his forehead is blue in the lower picture.
09/25/2008 10:22:54 AM · #3
Originally posted by sjl2116:

Looks like the original is Gray, the glare on his forehead is blue in the lower picture.

Funny, I'd have said the opposite. Looks to me like they grabbed the blues in Hue/Saturation and yanked them all out. I think the suite & tie look funny (and the pillow-things behind him) - too flat or something, like you get when you desaturate a color that way.
09/25/2008 10:49:55 AM · #4
I'd say blue is the original colour too, the grey suit and tie look like they've been desaturated.
09/25/2008 11:14:54 AM · #5
The blue on his forehead could be flash reflection off the suit.

But I would have guessed the top was correct because the black seats behind him seem the more natural color. Plus his shirt is more white in that one without the blue cast (again could be reflection)
09/25/2008 11:22:26 AM · #6
I think the gray..
09/25/2008 11:27:39 AM · #7
The wrist watch has a bluish cast in the lower picture also. With that lighting, I don't know that the blue would overpower everything around it quite so much.

The skin tones look more natural in the upper photo also. Also the hair on the top of the head looks a little bluish in the bottom photo.

Not sure why anyone would bother to color the bottom photo, or desaturate the top photo...

Oh... Wait... I get it, it is a glitch in the Matrix.

Message edited by author 2008-09-25 11:29:24.
09/25/2008 11:30:44 AM · #8
Originally posted by ambaker:

The wrist watch has a bluish cast in the lower picture also. With that lighting, I don't know that the blue would overpower everything around it quite so much.

The skin tones look more natural in the upper photo also. Also the hair on the top of the head looks a little bluish in the bottom photo.

Not sure why anyone would bother to color the bottom photo, or desaturate the top photo...



screwy monitor?
09/25/2008 11:30:44 AM · #9
This whole thread has subtle Civil War undertones (tone correction?). :)
09/25/2008 11:49:20 AM · #10
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

This whole thread has subtle Civil War undertones (tone correction?). :)

haha, that's what I thought too, when I first saw the title.
09/25/2008 11:54:23 AM · #11
The top picture was shot in HD. The bottom one is what the rest of us get. :D

Message edited by author 2008-09-25 11:55:25.
09/25/2008 12:40:18 PM · #12
ok so let me see if I'm thinking this through correctly. I took both into MS picture manager (only thing I have here at work) and looked at them back and forth at 400%...I think they desaturated the blue one because look at his forehead, blue tint is gone. Corner of couch behind his head has a hint of blue still to it. Skin color (and color of yellow items) is different, which would happen if you remove blue right? Not totally sure since I did so badly on in this color hue test but just what I'm guessing. Does make you wonder why someone would do it.

If they were colorizing the image wouldn't it be more selective to just his clothing or is it easier to just go all or nothing?
09/25/2008 12:58:54 PM · #13
blue.
09/25/2008 01:03:57 PM · #14
Originally posted by sabphoto:

ok so let me see if I'm thinking this through correctly. I took both into MS picture manager (only thing I have here at work) and looked at them back and forth at 400%...I think they desaturated the blue one because look at his forehead, blue tint is gone. Corner of couch behind his head has a hint of blue still to it. Skin color (and color of yellow items) is different, which would happen if you remove blue right? Not totally sure since I did so badly on in this color hue test but just what I'm guessing. Does make you wonder why someone would do it.

If they were colorizing the image wouldn't it be more selective to just his clothing or is it easier to just go all or nothing?


I don't think they were "colorizing" as much as attempting to correct the original (pool photo I assume).

Message edited by author 2008-09-25 13:43:06.
09/25/2008 01:36:33 PM · #15
I'm betting top is original, but in order to sell same picture to both news services, the original had to be changed to say they were different pictures.
09/25/2008 01:42:38 PM · #16
Funny how the seat colouring is relatively not changed.
09/25/2008 01:43:44 PM · #17
Blue original for sure
09/25/2008 01:53:58 PM · #18
Definitely blue original, grey edit.
09/25/2008 01:55:37 PM · #19
Doesn't someone here have the software add-on for Firefox that gives the EXIF? :) Betting the white balance was not correct for the original. Just a thought...I'll climb back under my rock now...
09/25/2008 01:57:26 PM · #20
Looks like white balance issues to me......Grey.
09/25/2008 02:03:50 PM · #21
Crazy thought from a relative newbie. I was recently resizing some pics for a photo contest and ran up against something kinda' sorta' like this. One guy's photo was shot in Adobe RGB (all others in sRGB). I tried "Save for Web" and got a strange color cast shift where all the blues turned grey as the software tried to convert to sRGB. Is it possible that the blue image is the real one, and that it was shot with the camera in AdobeRGB color space, and that when someone at Reuters picked it up, they somehow did a save for web thingie or something that caused the color cast shift as it went to sRGB? Just a thought (from someone who knows just enough to be dangerous).
09/25/2008 02:07:18 PM · #22
Usually if save for web is used without converting to sRGB, colours wash out, not shift.

09/25/2008 02:11:17 PM · #23
Thanks! Still learnin' :-)
09/25/2008 02:15:44 PM · #24
I'll vote gray, based on some comparisons of the furniture and electronic thingies in this photo.
09/25/2008 02:25:58 PM · #25
I'd guess more like this;

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which is just the blue with saturation bumped down.

eta; Though this looks definitely grey...
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Message edited by author 2008-09-25 14:34:28.
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