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10/15/2008 02:29:22 PM · #51
I imagine that letting a kid see the word 'porno' on a billboard would have the same effect as an ancient Greek/Roman child, or modern day European kid walking past a fresco/statue/mural/mosaic depicting a sex act or an overly large phallus. I.e, it'll lead to that society becoming a backwater, degenerate, morally decayed, 3rd world country because they exposed their kids to such inappropriate material at a young age.

We all know that nothing good ever came out of Europe in the renaissance, or from Ancient Rome, Greece, or Egypt.
10/15/2008 02:30:06 PM · #52
Originally posted by MyeReadBik:

I imagine that letting a kid see the word 'porno' on a billboard would have the same effect as an ancient Greek/Roman child, or modern day European kid walking past a fresco/statue/mural/mosaic depicting a sex act or an overly large phallus. I.e, it'll lead to that society becoming a backwater, degenerate, morally decayed, 3rd world country because they exposed their kids to such inappropriate material at a young age.

We all know that nothing good ever came out of Europe in the renaissance, or from Ancient Rome, Greece, or Egypt.

ROFLMSOAO!!!!!!!
10/15/2008 02:32:34 PM · #53
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by Marc923:

No, I'm not a parent. But if I were and my kid asked what porno meant. I'd simply explain it's a movie for adults. That's all you need.

Originally posted by glad2badad:

<The following day at school...talking to his/her friend..."I know what porno means, do you? My dad told me about them.">
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<Teacher overhears...>
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<Dad to police officer showing up at his work..."What porno movies?! NO - I did NOT show my kid any porno's...what are you TALKING about">
<Fellow workers...rumors spread...you're now trafficking in child pornography>

Sound crazy? Maybe. Ask that parent/grandparent, etc...that's been taken in for having film developed with baby in the bath tub.

That's an isolated incident and you know it......and I'd move if the town I lived in was that narrow-minded and subject to baseless rumor and innuendo.

Isolated? The above scenario could happen anywhere in the USA in todays environment - no doubt about it.
10/15/2008 02:33:23 PM · #54
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by Marc923:

No, I'm not a parent. But if I were and my kid asked what porno meant. I'd simply explain it's a movie for adults. That's all you need.

Originally posted by glad2badad:

<The following day at school...talking to his/her friend..."I know what porno means, do you? My dad told me about them.">
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.
<Teacher overhears...>
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.
<Dad to police officer showing up at his work..."What porno movies?! NO - I did NOT show my kid any porno's...what are you TALKING about">
<Fellow workers...rumors spread...you're now trafficking in child pornography>

Sound crazy? Maybe. Ask that parent/grandparent, etc...that's been taken in for having film developed with baby in the bath tub.

That's an isolated incident and you know it......and I'd move if the town I lived in was that narrow-minded and subject to baseless rumor and innuendo.

Isolated? The above scenario could happen anywhere in the USA in todays environment - no doubt about it.


I hear black helicopters too.
10/15/2008 02:36:02 PM · #55
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10/15/2008 02:47:38 PM · #56
TEACH YOUR CHILDREN by Graham Nash
10/15/2008 02:55:20 PM · #57
I think people in the U.S. try to shield their children from everything. It's hard to see living here... and working with teenagers, I see a lot of sheltered kids starting to discover life and things that are so 'taboo'. They embrace the rebellion, especially when they get freedom and move out for college. It's funny to me because every study shows that the more conversations you have with your children about sex, pornography, alcohol, drugs, etc. the better they are at confronting them when they get older. It's an 'ignorance is bliss' mindset, when it should be 'knowledge is power' especially when it comes to raising your children.

If you teach your kids that sex/porno/etc is wrong, that you should never talk about it, then when they are faced with those situations, they'll be afraid to talk about it with anyone- especially the parents that were telling them it was wrong.

Fun forum on a photography site... haha.
10/15/2008 03:00:29 PM · #58
I think this discussion in and of itself is a case-in-point that everyone has differing (and equally respectable) ideas of what "good parenting" is to them--some of which would prefer that their 5-year olds not have to be in a situation where they would ask "what is a porno" (which I personally agree with...I think' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' AP's posts say it all).

There's nothing wrong with that.
10/15/2008 03:03:14 PM · #59
Props to ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' AP! :)

(Poor guy seems all alone here...! Thought he could use some support.)
10/15/2008 03:11:18 PM · #60
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Isolated? The above scenario could happen anywhere in the USA in todays environment - no doubt about it.

Could, but it really doesn't, THAT was my point.

I'm not going to try and protect my kid from remote possibilities and extreme tangential episodes.
10/15/2008 03:17:14 PM · #61
Originally posted by Shaka:

I think this discussion in and of itself is a case-in-point that everyone has differing (and equally respectable) ideas of what "good parenting" is to them--some of which would prefer that their 5-year olds not have to be in a situation where they would ask "what is a porno" (which I personally agree with...I think' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' AP's posts say it all).

There's nothing wrong with that.

There is nothing wrong with NOT wanting to have to explain awful things to a child.

What IS wrong is wanting to punish and/or change everyone around you for behavior that doesn''t suit YOUR parameters.

Personally, I'd rather have NOT had to explain to my daughter why my parents were selfish @$$holes who can't be bothered to so much as send her birthday and Christmas cards when she was small.......and to have had to do that WITHOUT just saying it that way.

So learning these kinds of things is as much a growth experience for the parents as it is for the kids.

Growing up isn't just for children.......dammit!......8>)
10/15/2008 03:32:31 PM · #62
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Isolated? The above scenario could happen anywhere in the USA in todays environment - no doubt about it.

Could, but it really doesn't, THAT was my point.

I'm not going to try and protect my kid from remote possibilities and extreme tangential episodes.

It wasn't the kid I was worried about in this scenario...it was the parent. Awwwhh, heck - nevermind.
10/15/2008 03:32:50 PM · #63
But ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' NikonJeb...I don't wanna grow up...
10/15/2008 04:07:05 PM · #64
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Marc923:

Sheesh. It's just a word.
//apnews.myway.com//article/20081015/D93R0IMG5.html


Good for them. You have a right to make the movie and name it whatever you want. You don't have the right to a venue.


I'd expect nothing less from one of the most uptight Americans I know of.


Nor should you. I'm nothing if not consistent in my application of undeniable common sense.


Noone said anything about common sense.


I did.
10/15/2008 04:07:29 PM · #65
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by Marc923:

Back to the original topic. The movie is a comedy about 2 people who make a porno. It's not really a porno. Yes, the title is controversial, but people getting upset about the ads because of the word porno. I just think people are looking for things to complain about. I don't see anything wrong with it. People are just a bit uptight nowadays.

Not a parent, are you.


I hear a helicopter.


Your type always does.
10/15/2008 04:08:42 PM · #66
Originally posted by Marc923:

No, I'm not a parent. But if I were and my kid asked what porno meant. I'd simply explain it's a movie for adults. That's all you need.


A movie for adults who have no decency would be the correct answer.

Just like cigarettes are for adults who have no appreciation for their health.
10/15/2008 04:10:02 PM · #67
Originally posted by citymars:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Sound crazy? Maybe. Ask that parent/grandparent, etc...that's been taken in for having film developed with baby in the bath tub.

And what do you think leads to such crazed Puritanism?


Simply decency is always called Puritanism by those with no sense of decency.
10/15/2008 04:14:28 PM · #68
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by citymars:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Sound crazy? Maybe. Ask that parent/grandparent, etc...that's been taken in for having film developed with baby in the bath tub.

And what do you think leads to such crazed Puritanism?

Simply decency is always called Puritanism by those with no sense of decency.

HawkeyeLonewolf, I know you like to make these sort of simplistic pronouncements, but even you surely can't believe that it's "simple decency" to arrest people who have photographed their own children in the tub or otherwise naked?
10/15/2008 04:25:13 PM · #69
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by Marc923:

Back to the original topic. The movie is a comedy about 2 people who make a porno. It's not really a porno. Yes, the title is controversial, but people getting upset about the ads because of the word porno. I just think people are looking for things to complain about. I don't see anything wrong with it. People are just a bit uptight nowadays.

Not a parent, are you.


I hear a helicopter.


Your type always does.


If you want to helicopter over your kids and shield them from the world, that's your business, just don't cry that you don't know what happened when they can't resist the temptation of what you have made taboo.
10/15/2008 04:27:27 PM · #70
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Marc923:

Sheesh. It's just a word.
//apnews.myway.com//article/20081015/D93R0IMG5.html


Good for them. You have a right to make the movie and name it whatever you want. You don't have the right to a venue.


I'd expect nothing less from one of the most uptight Americans I know of.


Nor should you. I'm nothing if not consistent in my application of undeniable common sense.


Noone said anything about common sense.


I did.


Fortunately, your kind of "sense" isn't commonplace.
10/15/2008 04:33:44 PM · #71
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Marc923:

Sheesh. It's just a word.
//apnews.myway.com//article/20081015/D93R0IMG5.html


Good for them. You have a right to make the movie and name it whatever you want. You don't have the right to a venue.


I'd expect nothing less from one of the most uptight Americans I know of.


Nor should you. I'm nothing if not consistent in my application of undeniable common sense.


Noone said anything about common sense.


I did.


That was a farse.
10/15/2008 04:35:29 PM · #72
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by citymars:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Sound crazy? Maybe. Ask that parent/grandparent, etc...that's been taken in for having film developed with baby in the bath tub.

And what do you think leads to such crazed Puritanism?


Simply decency is always called Puritanism by those with no sense of decency.


That's one of the funniest things I've seen you post. I do wish I hadn't just taken a drink when I read it, blowing coffee out one's nose isn't exactly pleasant.
10/15/2008 04:43:36 PM · #73
Rather than look at this as a negative how about parents view this as an opportunity to further teach their child? Don't sell your children short they are a lot more adapt and understanding than you might think. Besides, how do you think we got to where we are today? You can thank religion and parenting practices of the past for making sex so marketable today. This article is another example of the type of thing that only fuels the sex industry not hurt it. It's like these angry parents are on Joe Francis' payroll (a.k.a. maker of Girls Gone Wild). Keep being angry it is what guys like him want.

Message edited by author 2008-10-15 16:45:28.
10/15/2008 04:45:46 PM · #74
Originally posted by citymars:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by citymars:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Sound crazy? Maybe. Ask that parent/grandparent, etc...that's been taken in for having film developed with baby in the bath tub.

And what do you think leads to such crazed Puritanism?

Simply decency is always called Puritanism by those with no sense of decency.

HawkeyeLonewolf, I know you like to make these sort of simplistic pronouncements, but even you surely can't believe that it's "simple decency" to arrest people who have photographed their own children in the tub or otherwise naked?


No, it's simply decency not to photograph your child or any child naked.

The story I was commenting on was where the parents hired a photographer to take the shots. I know some grandparents/parents have done it themselves and should not be arrested barring any other abuse, but they clearly need help for seeking such photos.
10/15/2008 04:50:56 PM · #75
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by citymars:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by citymars:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Sound crazy? Maybe. Ask that parent/grandparent, etc...that's been taken in for having film developed with baby in the bath tub.

And what do you think leads to such crazed Puritanism?

Simply decency is always called Puritanism by those with no sense of decency.

HawkeyeLonewolf, I know you like to make these sort of simplistic pronouncements, but even you surely can't believe that it's "simple decency" to arrest people who have photographed their own children in the tub or otherwise naked?


No, it's simply decency not to photograph your child or any child naked.

The story I was commenting on was where the parents hired a photographer to take the shots. I know some grandparents/parents have done it themselves and should not be arrested barring any other abuse, but they clearly need help for seeking such photos.


Clearly? Really? If they hired a photographer then, well, no to that too unless the photographer is known for child pornography.

It also depends a great deal on how old the kids are. Babies? 10 year olds? There's a big difference.
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