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DPChallenge Forums >> Hardware and Software >> Lens Question: Tamron 28-75 vs. Can. 17-85 IS
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11/04/2008 02:25:33 PM · #1
Okay, so I could sell both lenses and get the Canon 70-200 F4.0 L (non-IS). That would leave me with the 50mm F1.8 MKII and the 70-200 F4.0L. If I get another kit lens for Christmas I can get my wide range covered. Do you think this would be a good way to go? Any other thoughts and suggestions?

By the way I'm getting my 30D with the 17-85 later tonight (*does happy dance*).
11/04/2008 10:55:06 AM · #2
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by bobonacus:

Originally posted by scalvert:

The stabilization makes it handy for motion panning, too.

The 17-85 doesn't have the same "option 2" stabilization that the longer zoom lenses have and can give very odd results if you try and pan with IS on :)

There may be better stabilization options, but in my experience the 17-85 does a fine job with motion panning. ;-)

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Cool, they look good. I deleted the ones I took from a rally, the lens was not happy as I had motion panning from the corners to the centre with a sharp car in the middle of the shot, very weird effect :) Though with the 70-300 on IS 2 @ 70mm the panning was fine
11/04/2008 10:19:14 AM · #3
Maybe I could find a way to get the 70-200 F4.0L by selling both and then find another cheap kit lens for walking around around Christmas-time. It's just kind of tight financially so, if you have any suggestions other than what I posted earlier I am open to them.
11/04/2008 10:11:15 AM · #4
Originally posted by bobonacus:

Originally posted by scalvert:

The stabilization makes it handy for motion panning, too.

The 17-85 doesn't have the same "option 2" stabilization that the longer zoom lenses have and can give very odd results if you try and pan with IS on :)

There may be better stabilization options, but in my experience the 17-85 does a fine job with motion panning. ;-)

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11/04/2008 10:11:02 AM · #5
Originally posted by bobonacus:

Originally posted by scalvert:

The stabilization makes it handy for motion panning, too.


The 17-85 doesn't have the same "option 2" stabilization that the longer zoom lenses have and can give very odd results if you try and pan with IS on :)


I guess what I worry about with the 17-85 IS is it being fast enough and I also worry about DOF being narrow enough for portraits with f-stops of 4-5.6 even at 85mm, that's what I've loved about the Tammy. Though, i do find in lower light situations that I do generally pull out the plastic fantastic. I have most been using the Tammy for my walk-around lens, but wish it had a little wider than 28 and a little longer than 75. It's kind of tough. My wife said I need to sell one of the lenses to help with the overall cost, unless there's another lens out there for 350 should be looking at.
11/04/2008 09:42:52 AM · #6
Originally posted by scalvert:

The stabilization makes it handy for motion panning, too.


The 17-85 doesn't have the same "option 2" stabilization that the longer zoom lenses have and can give very odd results if you try and pan with IS on :)
11/04/2008 08:57:08 AM · #7
I have both lenses also. I like the wide angle of the Canon 17-85 & IS & wish the Tammy was wider, however, the Tam. 28-75 does much better in low light conditions and the color with it is beautiful. I have found that I use the Tam. much more.
11/03/2008 08:33:42 PM · #8
FWIW, I have all three of those lenses. The Tamron was my go-to walkaround lens because I also had dedicated wide angle and telephoto glass for use outside of that range. I used the 50mm for available light portraits, and the 17-85 when I needed to travel light or minimize lens changes. The stabilization makes it handy for motion panning, too. The Tamron is sharper, but it doesn't focus as quickly as the 17-85 and obviously doesn't have nearly the range.
11/03/2008 08:20:13 PM · #9
Thanks guys, that's all I needed to hear.
11/03/2008 08:17:38 PM · #10
Originally posted by goinskiing:

I end up using the 50mm about 90% of the time any way.


if that's the case you should be fine off with this package without the 28-75. sounds like a great package to me (if the price is right) and i think if you're really looking into outdoor portraiture a 50 1.8 is far better than a f2.8 zoom imo.
the tammi is a great lens and it was the first i bought more than 2 years ago, but i'm mostly using it for studio work and my 85 1.8 for outdoor portraiture.
and i think the 17-85 has more value as a all-around or walk-around lens than the tammi especially it's a whole lot wider than the tammi while your 50mm prime will cover your need for a good portrait lens.

eta: scalvert beat me to it, but you get the idea ;)

Message edited by author 2008-11-03 20:21:47.
11/03/2008 08:16:19 PM · #11
Originally posted by goinskiing:

How does the 17-85 IS handle in portraits?

It doesn't matter if you already have a 50mm f/1.8 for portraits and low light. For general shooting (especially outdoors), you'll probably get more use from the wider range of the 17-85.
11/03/2008 08:06:59 PM · #12
Anyone?

11/03/2008 06:34:01 PM · #13
Ooo, I'm tempted guys. Tell me if there's any reason I shouldn't go for the Canon 17-85. If I did this deal I would have a Canon 30D, Canon f1.8 50mm MKII, and the Canon 17-85 IS, Canon Speedlite 430 EX.

My primary concern is outdoor portraiture if that makes any difference (I end up using the 50mm about 90% of the time any way).
11/03/2008 06:23:17 PM · #14
Not to mention if I did the deal with the 17-85 IS I could break close to even if I sold the Tammy. How does the 17-85 IS handle in portraits?
11/03/2008 06:00:29 PM · #15
Well, I'm looking at some used 30D packages locally and if I did the one I'm looking at it comes with the 17-85 IS. If I did that I'd have to sell my Tammy 28-75. The little extra reach and wideness appeal to me as I sold the kit lens.
11/03/2008 05:58:55 PM · #16
Depends what you want it for. The Canon obviously has a huge edge at the wide end (17 is a LOT wider than 28); on the other hand, the Tamron is incredibly sharp for the price, and the straight 2.8 is very handy.
11/03/2008 05:56:30 PM · #17
I haven't used either, but having read a lot about the Tamron, I can assume that it will overwhelmingly be the favorite.

The max constant aperture of 2.8 over 4-5.6 gives you a faster focus, brighter viewfinder, and a sharper image. At f/4, the Canon will be wide open and therefore possibly soft, while the Tamron will be stopped down a bit and all the sharper for it.

While the Canon has IS, I would say that IS is less important in the 17-85 range than on longer lenses.

ETA: Unfortunately losing the 17-28 range is rough. Right now 24 is my widest, and on my crop camera, I wish I had wider.

Message edited by author 2008-11-03 17:59:13.
11/03/2008 05:51:12 PM · #18
Which would you pick if you had the choice? Thanks!
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