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07/30/2009 02:55:40 PM · #1
So far I have two sb800 I want to go wireless(more than just build in flash). Pocket wizards are more expensive and Su-800 allows for ttl etc.

I was wondering what is your opinion on this subject. Maybe somebody has both.
07/30/2009 03:02:10 PM · #2
I have the SU-800 and love it. The lack of preflash made me go for it as a commander unit versus the SB800. It is great in the respect that you can control the compatible Nikon flashes from the unit whereas the Pocket Wizards do not allow for this.

You already have CLS built into the Nikon system, it makes sense for a few hundred to get an SU-800.

This means you'll have money left over for two SB600 flashes and still stay within budget.

You will be a flash god!!!

The wizards are very consistent but the CLS system is pretty darn good if you follow some basic setup rules.

I'm happy with my choice.
07/30/2009 03:54:21 PM · #3
Thanks Ivo this is exactly what had in mind, but it's good to hear it from somebody else.

I wonder about sync speed, and bright light outdoor shooting as far as range/distance.
07/30/2009 04:06:40 PM · #4
well, if you want wireless and ttl, you already know what you need to buy (SU 800). But, if you can live with wireless only, I would recommend the Cybersync triggers from Paul Buff. Less expensive than PWs and very reliable. I've used them extensively without a false/mistrigger on my SB800, 600, and with studio strobes.

But it is pretty damn cool to be able to remote control the speedlights, even in manual mode, with the CLS system, so an SU800 is certainly appealing.

Having said that, I have had issues with CLS being a bit touchy outdoors, even at close range using the preflash: the SU800 may be more reliable in that situation, but I had so many misfires outdoors (using the built-in flash to command)that I went for the cybersyncs as a result. I suspect, but do not know for certain, that a diffusion dome of some sort would make the command more omnidirectional outdoors (whereas indoors the preflash bounces of walls and such)--the onboard flash unit may be a little too narrow in some setups outdoors, and nothing to reflect it around the scene back to the speedlights. I noted in a McNally video posted in another thread by Ivo that he used a diffusion dome on the SB800 he was using on his camera to command the remote speedlights.

If the SU800 is already sufficiently diffused, there might be no concern. It is interesting, though, that McNally chose to use another SB800 as a commander rather than an SU800.

Message edited by author 2009-07-30 16:13:41.
07/30/2009 05:02:24 PM · #5
Originally posted by chromeydome:

I would recommend the Cybersync triggers from Paul Buff. Less expensive than PWs and very reliable. I've used them extensively without a false/mistrigger on my SB800, 600, and with studio strobes.


So you're saying I can remote control an SB800 flash with the AB Cybersync controller?
07/31/2009 01:41:32 PM · #6
Originally posted by alanfreed:

Originally posted by chromeydome:

I would recommend the Cybersync triggers from Paul Buff. Less expensive than PWs and very reliable. I've used them extensively without a false/mistrigger on my SB800, 600, and with studio strobes.


So you're saying I can remote control an SB800 flash with the AB Cybersync controller?


No: my recommendation of cybersyncs was if he could live with wireless only, with no ttl:

"well, if you want wireless and ttl, you already know what you need to buy (SU 800). But, if you can live with wireless only, I would recommend the Cybersync triggers from Paul Buff."
07/31/2009 05:10:26 PM · #7
my choice would be either a SU-800 or a SB-900
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