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10/09/2009 02:57:06 PM · #201
Oh...commenter #3 was most generous...::beams::

I confess to you all that I have no idea whatsoever what "low key" is...obviously, I have plenty of company!

What I do find fascinating is that once someone arrives at their own conclusion of exactly what "low key" is...(right or wrong)...that opinion is firmly and strongly rooted without any real flexibility as to how well the technique is fits the image. So, the reactions to my own small effort is entertaining and makes entering this challenge very worthwhile and educational as well.

10/09/2009 04:16:21 PM · #202
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by VitaminB:

... Instead, for anything that I feel is DNMC, I ask myself what I would score the photo if it were a Free Study. Then I subtract 2 from the score. ... If is an outstanding photo that would normally get a 7 from me, I take two away and score it a 5. ...

Just my 2c.

So, a beautifully done waterdrop shot in a Pet Portrait challenge would get a 5 (or higher) from you?!


Im not crazy about waterdrops, and unless they are unique, I would normally give them a 6 in a Free Study, so I would give it a 4 if it was DNMC.
10/09/2009 04:16:22 PM · #203
double post... please delete me.

Message edited by author 2009-10-09 16:16:50.
10/09/2009 07:17:42 PM · #204
sure wished I understood why I get some 2s.
As a suggestion - could the website implement a change that would not allow posting below 3, unless a comment was given? This would allow us to understand, why the voter scores so low.
Or is this against the spirit of dpc?
10/09/2009 07:26:48 PM · #205
Originally posted by ErichN:

sure wished I understood why I get some 2s.
As a suggestion - could the website implement a change that would not allow posting below 3, unless a comment was given? This would allow us to understand, why the voter scores so low.
Or is this against the spirit of dpc?


it has been suggested again and again and I doubt it will ever come to pass...
10/09/2009 07:29:35 PM · #206
Originally posted by ErichN:

sure wished I understood why I get some 2s.
As a suggestion - could the website implement a change that would not allow posting below 3, unless a comment was given? This would allow us to understand, why the voter scores so low.
Or is this against the spirit of dpc?

It's an issue that has come up and been suggested many times before. There was actually a trial in place when I joined the site that nagged someone to leave a comment if they voted a 3 or less. The consensus was that it was ineffective, and if comments were required then either they would be useless comments or 4 would become the new 1, and the whole voting system would be artificially inflated. Basically, the deal is you cannot force people to leave useful comments if they don't want to.

A couple of things you can do however, is to be one of the people that leaves an explanatory comment on your low votes, and also to make sure the people who leave critiques for you know it is appreciated.

Message edited by author 2009-10-09 19:33:20.
10/09/2009 07:38:10 PM · #207
you just have to accept that the person who posts a score below 3 either just doesn't like your shot or they thinkit is compition for them and want to beat you!lol
10/09/2009 07:41:46 PM · #208
Votes: 104
Views: 184
Avg Vote: 5.2692
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
10/09/2009 08:39:43 PM · #209
I think I finally reach a stable point. I haven't been going up or down much lately.

Votes: 108
Views: 180
Avg Vote: 5.6944
Comments: 4
Favorites: 1
10/10/2009 01:10:14 AM · #210
You have rated 68 of 225 images (30%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 68 images (30%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.6324.

I wonder if I just like these submissions more than the average voter. I wonder how close my average will be to the winner?

2.5 more pages to go... Commenting takes a long time, especially the way I'm doing it. I might have to resort to just voting, commenting on 5 and below, and offering comments for anything higher.

Time for bed.
10/10/2009 01:41:45 AM · #211
Originally posted by dustingooding:

You have rated 68 of 225 images (30%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 68 images (30%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.6324.

I wonder if I just like these submissions more than the average voter. I wonder how close my average will be to the winner?

2.5 more pages to go... Commenting takes a long time, especially the way I'm doing it. I might have to resort to just voting, commenting on 5 and below, and offering comments for anything higher.

Time for bed.


I agree. With this many submissions, it takes FOREVER to comment on all of them.....I still have a ways to go.
10/10/2009 06:34:34 AM · #212
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by ErichN:

sure wished I understood why I get some 2s.
As a suggestion - could the website implement a change that would not allow posting below 3, unless a comment was given? This would allow us to understand, why the voter scores so low.
Or is this against the spirit of dpc?

It's an issue that has come up and been suggested many times before. There was actually a trial in place when I joined the site that nagged someone to leave a comment if they voted a 3 or less. The consensus was that it was ineffective, and if comments were required then either they would be useless comments or 4 would become the new 1, and the whole voting system would be artificially inflated. Basically, the deal is you cannot force people to leave useful comments if they don't want to.

A couple of things you can do however, is to be one of the people that leaves an explanatory comment on your low votes, and also to make sure the people who leave critiques for you know it is appreciated.


Yep an old horse that's been flogged to death indeed. :)he he and I should know hey Yo. Regarding the last bit Yo mentioned... Quote"Make sure the people who leave critiques for you know it is appreciated"Unquote Well I am trying a new technique as regards that and I am not sure it will be well received by everybody. I try and give as many comments in a challenge as I can. I also appreciate it that people acknowledge that by simply ticking the "COMMENT APPRECIATED" box. However I find that lots of people don't bother to tick those boxes so what I do now is that 1 day before the voting on a chalenge ends I check which of my comments were not ticked. I then remove my comment from those entries and halve the score I had originally given.
10/10/2009 07:44:34 AM · #213
Wow, now there's a pretty arbitrary method of scoring! Makes the score as much about the comment as it does the image itself.
10/10/2009 08:20:31 AM · #214
Originally posted by fisheye:

Wow, now there's a pretty arbitrary method of scoring! Makes the score as much about the comment as it does the image itself.


Well not really. Only after the fact actually. When I give the comment I presume the box will be ticked. Hey 2 fishes.
10/10/2009 08:26:14 AM · #215
Anyway....I should add that i haven't really gone to this extreme. I was considering it but it would require to much extra work and time which could rather be spent on doing more comments. And I also doubt whether it would really have any effect at all.
10/10/2009 08:27:38 AM · #216
Plus commenting is fun and educational for oneself too.
10/10/2009 08:28:56 AM · #217
One fish, two fish...Cheers! I agree it's nice to be acknowledged for a helpful comment.
10/10/2009 09:12:10 AM · #218
Votes: 108
Views: 168
Avg Vote: 3.7593
Comments: 1

Still going down..... and enjoying the ride.... sort of.
I still like my picture, but at the moment I'm questioning my own judgement.
10/10/2009 10:44:19 AM · #219
You have rated 225 of 225 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 2 images (1%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.1244.

I may still make more comments before the voting is done.
10/10/2009 10:48:58 AM · #220
Originally posted by ThingFish:

Originally posted by fisheye:

Wow, now there's a pretty arbitrary method of scoring! Makes the score as much about the comment as it does the image itself.


Well not really. Only after the fact actually. When I give the comment I presume the box will be ticked. Hey 2 fishes.


Wow. So I read the comment, check it helpful, but for whatever reason it doesn't "register" and I go on. Before I figure out that it hasn't "registered" you've removed the comment and halved the score.

Or, I submit my picture, and then am unable to check on it during the week, or after you make your comment. *poof*

That's fair. (end sarcasm) But, to each his own. If this is what floats your boat, have at it.

oh yea, I'm UP to 4.5

Message edited by author 2009-10-10 10:50:45.
10/10/2009 10:50:02 AM · #221
All 3 of my commenters like my shot. And all 3 listed the scores they gave, a 10 an 8 and a 7. Yet my score still sits here...

Votes: 113
Views: 166
Avg Vote: 4.5575
Comments: 3

So I guess only those 3 actually like it. LOL!
10/10/2009 12:08:59 PM · #222
Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by ThingFish:

Originally posted by fisheye:

Wow, now there's a pretty arbitrary method of scoring! Makes the score as much about the comment as it does the image itself.


Well not really. Only after the fact actually. When I give the comment I presume the box will be ticked. Hey 2 fishes.


oh yea, I'm UP to 4.5


Just think, it could've been a 9 if you had only checked those comments as helpful :D

jk
10/10/2009 12:47:35 PM · #223
To VitaminB and Karmat. You obviously forgot to read the posts in this thread I made after the post you commented on.

By the way...just look at these interesting stats of mine:

# Comments:Made: 2,918
# Helpful: 2,394
# Received: 335
# Helpful: 332

That's 524 comments not acknowledged out of 2,918.

Message edited by author 2009-10-10 12:53:25.
10/10/2009 02:26:19 PM · #224
Originally posted by ThingFish:

To VitaminB and Karmat. You obviously forgot to read the posts in this thread I made after the post you commented on.

By the way...just look at these interesting stats of mine:

# Comments:Made: 2,918
# Helpful: 2,394
# Received: 335
# Helpful: 332

That's 524 comments not acknowledged out of 2,918.


Congrats on your stats. Mine are similar, with close to 500 comments not marked as helpful. But, you obviously missed the "jk" part of my post... take that to mean just kidding, or joke, or whatever.

But back to your original post, and your replies since then. You did state you were considering it. ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/user_id/811.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/user_id/811.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Karmat raised a couple scenarios in her post which describes situations where your method would fail to be fair to the photographer.
10/10/2009 02:40:51 PM · #225
I saw them. I also got your PM.

You seemed to have missed the "IF" in my post.

Originally posted by karmat:

If this is what floats your boat, have at it.
which would indicate (I thought) that I understood you had said you hadn't taken it to that extreme. If you hadn't thought about it, you wouldn't have posted it. So IF you choose to do that, and IF it floats your boat, have at it.

# Comments:Made: 9,165
# Helpful: 6,533

That's over a 2000 comment deficit. Of course, a chunk of those were made before the box was available. Some, though are on things like critique club comments, etc. If they check it, good. If not, and I *know* it was helpful, I figure someone else may get something from it. If they don't check it and I don't know why, so be it. To each his own.

Everyone has a different definiton of "helpful." For some, they want you to help their egos, others want help on technicals, some want to know they connected emotionally, and finally others use it as a "comment received" technique.

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