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4th New York Independent Battery - Devil's Den - Gettysburg Battlefield
4th New York Independent Battery - Devil's Den - Gettysburg Battlefield

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Challenge: Monuments II (Advanced Editing VII)
Collection: 2015
Camera: Sony Alpha A77
Lens: Sigma 18-250 f/3.5 - 6.3 DC OS HSM
Location: Gettysburg
Date: Apr 25, 2015
Aperture: F18
ISO: 400
Shutter: 1/200
Date Uploaded: Apr 26, 2015

Overcast day. Bracketed exposures. HDR applied using PSP X7.

Place: 32 out of 60
Avg (all users): 5.5479
Avg (commenters): 6.0000
Avg (participants): 5.4242
Avg (non-participants): 5.6500
Views since voting: 341
Views during voting: 136
Votes: 73
Comments: 15
Favorites: 0

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05/04/2015 02:46:55 PM
The process used for this image is the HDR tecnique; in this photo I think that it doesn't give the right result due to the fact that the background is too much important and the colours are similar to the monument's ones.
It's a pity cause the monument has the perfect parameters for the contest and i think you'd have to isolate it from the rest to have the perfect result
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05/04/2015 02:11:53 PM
I meant to say I did not vote in this challenge, not image LOL
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05/04/2015 11:46:44 AM
I think the issues with this image have been well-covered by other commenters. David nailed it, imo, as this is just a documentarian type of image showing that you've been here. If you wanted imposing grandeur, you should have gotten down lower, shot from an angle, something. I'm far more intrigued by that castle thing on the hill, with those tiny people climbing towards it than what is in the foreground...

On the weather note, a lot of folks hate overcast days for photography. I love them, because it gives me a blank slate to decide what to highlight and emphasize, rather than letting nature decide for me. It takes a bit of creativity, but if you want an example, send me the original :)
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05/04/2015 11:05:45 AM
I did not vote on this image, but I would have given it a 5 due to the background..

I think if you would have just focused on the statue which is a phenomenal detailed and very powerful subject, it just got lost within the whole image. The canon showing within, so what... it was the statue that really is the powerful statement

I would like to see this cropped up and then composed to just the statue, I think this would have been awesome image! You have a great subject which no doubt an awesome thing on itself

You always have great tastes when it comes to your subjects

Message edited by author 2015-05-04 11:06:32.
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05/04/2015 10:38:23 AM
The lack of a strong focal point would seem to me to be a reasonable assessment.
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05/04/2015 10:22:32 AM
As others have stated the background is competing with the subject. I would have used a shallower DOF and made the monument more the focal point. Or maybe Just chosen one of the objects. Looks like you have several different subjects in this photo and the viewer just doesn't know where to focus.
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05/04/2015 10:19:31 AM
Processing is way ott for this type of image and the composition is boring in the extreme.
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05/04/2015 10:07:54 AM
I didn't vote on this challenge, but I agree with the two issues raised by atupdate/Tim. I'll add one more thing. To me the image looks cluttered, in lack of better words. This is because of everything going on in the hillside. All of the rocks, shrubs and different coloured grass is stealing my attention away from the actual monument. Of course this is not something you can do anything about, but perhaps a different angle might have done the monument more justice? I don't know..I'm still learning :)

Update: Oh..someone beat me to it. Note to self, refresh window before leaving a comment an hour before the initial viewing of the image

Message edited by author 2015-05-04 10:10:39.
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05/04/2015 09:50:32 AM
Appreciate the feedback. Yes, used HDR in PSP X7. I thought it was pretty well balanced and I backed off on it's impact (thank goodness). :-)

As for focus - the face of the statue is what it is ... no more detail available. If you look at the base of the monument, the plaque, the concrete, etc... it's all tack sharp, as is the Cannon. That was the focal plane. Thought I had that part correct at least ...
05/04/2015 09:03:47 AM
Sometimes HDR is your friend, sometimes it's not. Here, it's not.

The textures and details of the background do nothing for you here, and if nothing else they pull the eye away from what's supposed to be subject of your image. There are more details in the rocks than there are in face of the statue. Tack onto that the over structured and over-pinked look you can get from some HDR programs (I'm thinking this has HDR Efex Pro 2 written all over it) and it's a quick and easy 5 for me.

Composition is sound and all, but there's nothing really interesting here and I'm no fan of the processing. Frankly, I'm more interested in what's next to the statue's elbow than anything in the foreground.
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05/04/2015 09:00:06 AM
This is a good shot of the battleground, ok for the composition. I gave it a 6 because the lack of contrast in colors and lighting leaves it a bit dull looking, overall.
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05/04/2015 08:56:26 AM
FWIW - Considering my scores, what do I know, but my thoughts...
It is a busy picture - lots of rocks, bushes, etc. in the background.
The tree line seems to have a light border between it and the sky (result of processing, I'd guess)
To me, the biggest problem is that the cannon is pointing out of the picture to the left. It would work if the cannon was on the other side of the statue, or if there was some space for the cannon to point into.
I think this monument would have worked better photographically if you'd included only the cannon or the statue, but not both. Maybe there is a better angle that would "condense" the elements - making them appear closer together.
I think this is an excellent example of a historical group placing things with no thought of photography. Here's a cannon. Here's a statue. How we place them doesn't matter. With a little thought, a better arrangement could have been used making the scene more memorable and accessible.
You have some very nice color / texture in the ground cover.
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05/04/2015 08:19:48 AM
Since I'm not a paying member, I couldn't vote on this image. But if I did I would have given it a 5, as it clearly meets the challenge. There are two things that bother me about this image.

1. The light doesn't look balanced. The background has a bunch of detail but the face of the soldier has very little. Since the soldier and background are basically facing the same direction, my eye expects about the same amount of detail. As is, the background looks over processed.

2. The crop is a little tight for my taste. A bit more space on the bottom and sides would have given the monument more breathing room and better convey the size of the battle field.

As is, it is a monument shot with the background being dominate.

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05/04/2015 08:08:51 AM
Probably not enough eye-candy.

I do think it is a reasonably well balanced shot, exactly the one that should be used in the History text books, or Google. It displays the monuments in good colouor and perfect definition, it places them in their right perspective, and there are some nice lines formed by the horison, trees and paving.

The clouds are a bit dull. The cannon is perhaps too close to the left side of the image.

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 Comments Made During the Challenge
05/03/2015 06:00:00 PM
Nice colors and processing.
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