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Challenge: Macro V (Advanced Editing IV)
Camera: Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT
Lens: Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6
Location: My balcony
Date: Jul 2, 2005
Aperture: F/11
ISO: 200
Shutter: 1/60 sec
Galleries: Black and White, Food and Drink
Date Uploaded: Jul 2, 2005

Nothing astounding to get this shot, really. I put a small table outside on my balcony and placed a circular mirror on top. Added my three elements and framed the shot to make sure the circular balcony metalwork showed up in the frame.

Taken in natural light (slightly shaded) with no flash.

Modifications in Photoshop CS:
- Levels adjustment layer
- Hue/Saturation adjustment layer
- USM
- Cloned out some nasty spots on the mirror.

I like this picture, though I suspect it may not be "close-up" enough for some people's taste. But I don't have any fancy macro lenses, so I have to work with what I've got!

Statistics
Place: 295 out of 374
Avg (all users): 4.8270
Avg (commenters): 5.3750
Avg (participants): 4.7296
Avg (non-participants): 5.0256
Views since voting: 1216
Views during voting: 301
Votes: 237
Comments: 33
Favorites: 1 (view)


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07/13/2005 12:44:39 AM
B/W Group -
Since you say, that you do like this image, and I think it is a nice, little busy, but still nice, why not try to blur out the background house/roof? I think if blurred that the foreground objects, including ironworks would stand out a little more.

If it were mine, and not for challenge, I would probably keep the slight rose coloring, except on the flowers. Those to me, maybe dodge a smidge to lighten them up. Not sure. As for the brighter areas not on the glass round, maybe a little burn, so that they do not stand out so much and give extra definition to the edge of the glass.

I do like the setup composition with the ironwork, makes me think of sitting on balcony in Paris. Without the house in background of course though. ;-)
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07/12/2005 10:00:15 PM
B/W Mentor Group:
I'm not a really big fan of the toning on this one. I also think the image is really busy and I have trouble focusing on any part of the photo. This set up would have done much better against a solid background, still using the mirror under it. I like still life work, I need to get much better at it myself. So, to summarize - take away the background, change the duotone either to a different shade or make the image color and I think you'll have a wonderful image.

What I do for getting a solid background on the few still life shots I've done is set up a full size matboard behind and under the subject. I then take a large sheet of wrapping paper and tape it to the top of the board behind and end of the board under for a smooth flowing background. If I need black, I use 2 black matboards with nothing taped to them.
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07/12/2005 08:08:04 PM
BW Club

I like the contrasts here in the glass. The roofline bothers me and there is too much white outside. Cropping the top section off (the one with the circle) helps a bit. The fruit slices seem to dark and I would like to see more detail there. The reflections in the wine glass the bottom of the vase are the best parts of this photo.
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07/12/2005 05:34:30 AM
B/W Mentor Group.

Still life is not one of my strong points, in fact its one of my pet hates - sorry!!

However, having said that lets have a real look at this image.
WIne, rose, small intimate table, all suggests romance to me, but look at the tonal range you have used. Stark contrasts with very little between shadow and highlight. For me this subject calls for soft easy flowing tones, almost high-key, with parts overblown to let the imagination fill in the blanks. OK its a cliche I know, but maybe it would work ;-)

Hope that doesn't sound too negative. The image is anice enough image but to take it to the next level it needs mmore atmosphere, and a different conversion might add that little something.
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07/11/2005 03:25:35 PM
B/W Club!

The rosy dual tone highlights the element that "normally" is that color (e.g. the wine in this case) and give the shot a bit of a romantic feel. I'm wondering if rose/red/pink does that in general to shots. I like the light and dark tonal variety in the main elements. I'm wondering if you played around with the contrast (you notes don't mention that you did) and what effect did it have?
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07/11/2005 03:04:28 PM
B/W Club!

i think this is a nice still life. i'm not sure that it makes the best duotone shot for a couple of reasons.

1) still lifes are normally color. i'm all about breaking rules, but one kind of "expects" to see them that way.

2) there are a couple of things in the photo that also are "expected" to be in color: the wine, flowers, and the oranges particularly. again, anything CAN be in black and white -- the challenge is deciding what SHOULD be.

i think the tones and contrast in this are pretty good. yeah, there are blown-out bits, but i have no problem with those.
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07/11/2005 10:50:50 AM
B/W Mentor Class
Would love to see more of an edge to the table, but the blown out spot just along the edge is pretty distacting. The building in the background also pulls me away somewhat. Great shot overall, and I love the tones.

Message edited by author 2005-07-11 10:53:00.
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07/11/2005 10:14:48 AM
B/W Mentor Group.

This is an unusual shot and I think it lends itself well to black and white. Here are my observations, in no particular order:
- The toning applied to the black and white seems rather red in colour, this may be deliberate to echo the colour of the wine.
- Although there are some really bright white areas outside the window, because there are a lot of highlights in the foreground objects this doesn't stand out or distract particularly.
- I like the way the objects are placed to one side to allow the view of the window grills but I find their placement somewhat cluttered.
- I wonder if more could be made of the reflections of the objects in the surface material?
- It's hard to focus on the shapes and outline of the flowers and leaves because of the strong shapes of the grill just behind.
- I like the detail in the glass of the objects and the reflections in the wine glass are particularly intriguing.
- I like the way the bottom left hand corner is punctuated by a full circle from the grill. I think the slight cropping make the one at the top left less effective.

Message edited by author 2005-07-11 10:44:40.
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07/11/2005 12:03:40 AM
Hehe... well, I got spanked on this one. Kinda figured I would.
Comments speak for themselves...

Message edited by author 2005-07-11 01:57:01.
 Comments Made During the Challenge
07/10/2005 11:32:02 PM
Not exactly macro?
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07/10/2005 03:36:40 PM
Nice still life, but Macro?
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07/10/2005 09:47:06 AM
Think this is more of a stil life than a macro. It is a very good still life and I love the tones that you chose, the composition and the challenge to your exposure was handled well in this.
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07/09/2005 01:08:58 AM
Nice composition here. The backlighting is kind of nice in this shot. IMO, this doesn't really qualify as a macro/close-up shot, but it is a good picture.
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07/08/2005 05:23:03 PM
Great composition on this photo! I really like the B&W as well....good choice. Lighting looks great.
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07/07/2005 11:02:43 PM
This photo surprised me after seeing all the extreme closeups in the rest of the challenge. I can't help but be left looking for the Circle in it & wondering if it was really meant for that challenge.
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07/06/2005 06:30:24 PM
I love this shot. I hope others don't vote it down for not being close enough. I like the very slight color cast, and the composition is just beautiful.
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07/06/2005 05:33:55 PM
more of a product still photo to me than a macro/close up... not saying you cant have a macro product still photo but just imo i dont think you went close up enough.
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07/06/2005 12:14:34 PM
Very pretty, nice lighting and tones. But not quite in close enough for me, to meet this challenge.
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07/06/2005 06:58:32 AM
lovely choice of dualtones, intereting textures - background is too sharp/light and distracts my eye from the still life
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07/05/2005 08:38:59 PM
too cramped
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07/05/2005 08:38:20 PM
I like the way this one is different. Very nice as still life
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07/05/2005 01:46:07 PM
I don't really consider this a macro, but it is a nice shot.
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07/04/2005 09:08:12 PM
Sorry to say this, as I'm sure you'll have plenty of similar comments, but this isn't a close up OR a macro. I can understand some people submitting close ups (ie: not TRUE macros) but this is more like a tightly cropped still life to me.

That said, this is a very pleasant photo :) it conveys a great mood and the tones are wonderful. The reflections on the glass aren't too imposing and glary and you've manage to stay out of reflections way. Maybe a slightly tighter crop would have been better here as there's some unaccounted for space on the left hand side. Nice shot but it doesn't meet the challenge.

4 (if it met the challenge I would have given it a 7)
Alex
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07/04/2005 07:09:32 PM
The images that always suffer due to lack of comments are the ones that are right in the middle ground. Everyone comments on the awesome shots. Some comment on the bad shots. But the middle ones, very few people say anything. So here I am to explain why I voted a 5:

I like this image... I just didn't feel that it is either close up or macro. A close-up might have included just the top portion of the glass, for example. Instead, I see 3 objects on a table, a grate (or fence) and even a house in the background.

The image itself is nice and I even like the tone you've applied. I just don't feel it fits the challenge. But I'd hate to vote such a lovely image down... so I'm going for the middle ground with a 5. Hope you'll understand.
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07/04/2005 05:19:45 PM
this does not say macro to me at all
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07/04/2005 03:09:26 PM
I love the look and I want that glass!! .The only suggestion I would make is next time to leave more room beneath the glass and the bottom of the photo....it looks cropped too close. Great work and atmosphere I absolutely love the tones....maybe you will explain exactly how you got that tone after the challenge.
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07/04/2005 02:39:20 PM
Beautiful shot. Not sure I would call it a macro, but still a very well composed and presented image.
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07/04/2005 12:47:23 PM
Beautiful still life shot, not really a macro.
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07/04/2005 10:10:39 AM
Base: 5
Tech: +1
Subj:+2
Chln:

Total: 8
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07/04/2005 09:57:01 AM
beautiful tonal range and clarity. Composition well done. Have a feeling this might suffer at the hands of the voters but I love it. Good luck - 9 from me!
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07/04/2005 05:55:08 AM
jehh close up, but a macro ?
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07/04/2005 01:30:16 AM
I realize that "macro" description is subjective, but I would classify this as a still life. However I will not drop the score on such a subjective interpretation. Good work.
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07/04/2005 12:28:03 AM
it's close up, it's great in this tone, and a wonderful advertisment for a wine company or resteraunt...but I don't see this as a macro....Maybe you should have macro'd one of the fruits in the jar....still a 7 for a great shot in general.
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