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Snohomish Invitational GU-13 Finals
Snohomish Invitational GU-13 Finals
margiemu


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Challenge: Photojournalism II (Advanced Editing IV)
Camera: Canon EOS-20D
Lens: Canon EF 28-80mm f/2.8-4 L USM
Location: Marymoor Park
Date: Apr 26, 2006
Aperture: 2.8
ISO: 400
Shutter: 1/400
Date Uploaded: Apr 30, 2006

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Statistics
Place: 151 out of 183
Avg (all users): 5.0966
Avg (commenters): 5.5000
Avg (participants): 4.8143
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Views during voting: 276
Votes: 176
Comments: 17
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05/14/2006 12:38:25 AM
Greetings from your own critique club.

First Impression
Nice sport action shot.
Composition:
Composition is okay. Don't like the people in the background though. The tilted net also bothers me.
Subject:
I really like the subject. Fits the challenge well.
Technical (Colour and light):
The colors are perfect. Lighting on the middel girl is bit harse.
Improvement:
I don't really know if it was possible to crop the people in the back ground. The lighting it too bright on the middle and left side girl. Just wonderig if it would have looked better in B/W.
Summary:
NIce shot, meets the challenge. Well done.

Cheers!!
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05/09/2006 10:15:49 PM
hiya margie, from the ctpii

First Impression:
a classic newspaper shot, with good movement.

Composition:
the central element (the three girls) is very good, they are dynamic, and have great interaction. but the background elements are very distracting, especially the people in the top left. we start to wonder what they're doing, and this completey draws out attention away from the action. the cropping is good, and the girls are in the perfect spots. well done to get the shot.

Technical:
i think it would pop more with a bit more contrast and saturation. not a whole lot, it still needs to be a naturalistic, but enough to give rich reds and blacks - they're a tiny bit faded.

there's a tutorial about blurring the background that would come in very handy here. if the fence and people were blurred, that would bring the focus back to the players, which is where it should be. a little bit of dodgging on the background might help too. again, not a lot, just enough to draw the eye in to the players.

i think you could also do a bit more sharpening, just a few strokes of usm, to try to crispit up a bit.

Summary:
a very good shot, with the potential to be much more. nicely done.

Message edited by author 2006-05-10 21:35:31.
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05/09/2006 03:45:05 PM
Hi! Thanks so much for telling me about the crituqe threas:)

Ok, down to business...

The fence in the backround is a bit distracting.
It is slightly ou of focus (most of my pics are)
Maybe sharpening could help a bit

The action shot is good:) Your timing was great:)
The best of luck for the rest of your challenges
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05/09/2006 12:44:55 AM
First Impression - the most important one:
It's a nice action shot, you've caught the play of the game well, but some technical details, such as a bit soft focus is distracting.

Composition:
The crop works well, this is a typical composition for a newspaper shot. The fence line at the very top is a bit distracting though. Also, DoF is quite deep. I'd like to see a bit shallower depth of field to blur the background. This would help with my earlier comment of the people and also my issue with the fence line.

Subject:
Subject matter was good for this challenge. Almost any photog that has ever worked for a newspaper has shot sports. So, I think you made a good choice.

Technical (Color, focus, and light):
Focus issues, I feel hurt you the most.
Color is ok, but not vivrant. Playing with curves (or at least boosting saturation) would definitely add points.
Sports shots are tough when it comes to lighting and yours is not bad, considering the dynamic range it had to cover (black and white uniforms).

From a photojournalism standpoint
Minus the focus issues (which may be able to be fixed with USM) this shot would run in most small local newspapers easily. You could do these with a litle practice. But, try more with the longer lens, the DoF and being able to reach into the game will give you more of what viewers and editors are used to seeing.

Well, I hope this helps. I hope to see more from you in the future. :-)
Leroy

Message edited by author 2006-05-09 00:45:18.
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05/08/2006 11:40:41 PM
From the CTP MkII
Disclaimer:
The following crits are personal opinions, not photographic dogmas. Please see them as suggestions, not claims of mastery nor a show of hauteur.;p

First Impression: Wow, girlie football. However, a 4 from me (sorry...-_-") as the colors are a bit washed out and the shot lacks punch.
Composition: 5. The action's nice, but the background's too distracting it takes a lot from the shot. Hey, at least the ball's there.
Subject: 6. Girlie soccer's cool, but I'm not too wild over it. You got the action, which MAKES the shot, so that's cool. Digressing, the chick in red looks a wee bit like a dude, IMO. Sorry...
Technical: 4. Focus is a bit off, coloure a bit washed out, exposure a bit over-, um, exposed, and, well, the whole thing's a bit flat -- which you, however, could improve with pp. Well, a lot of pp.
Improvement: Recompose, maybe from another lateral and/or higher angle. Also, a lot of pp: a wee bit of dodging and burning, levels maybe or curves, saturate, and sharpen.
Summary: I hope I didn't sound too harsh. It's a good shot... it only needs some refinement. I'm a number too short on screws in the head so please do not be offended.;p

Message edited by author 2006-05-08 23:41:52.
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05/08/2006 08:45:53 PM
Hello margiemu! Here's your CTP2C

Compositionally, I think action shots are difficult, so kudos for getting a fairly decent shot. The players' faces and the action are all clearly visible. The group in the upper left background is a distraction, however, particularly since they don't seem too interested in what's going on.

The shot is a bit too blurred, especially surprising to me since it looks overexposed. I think both could be addressed in post-processing with some contrast, turn the brightness down a notch or two, a turned up the yellow in highlights w/ color balance, a little burn in an adjustment layer, plus a bit of unsharp mask:

  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/08/2006 03:02:14 PM
Comment from a member of your own commenting club :-)
Nice picture of girl socker but you could have made it better.
1. The title isn't catchy.
In this competition you could just as well made it up f.x.:
"Reds won the Golden Cup again" :-)
2. The two girls are a bit blurry, selective contrast would maybe have done it better. The third girl is ok.
3. The women in the back go into my nervs. Seeing people waching kid sport and at the same time not paying any attention make me somehow angry. The picture without them would have been much better.
4. The colours are not as strong as they could have been. I am no expert but I know there is a way to make them stronger in Advanced editing.
What is good in this picture is:
1. The girls are wery determent and you captured that well.
2. Cropping is good.
3. Good leading lines.
Hope I do not sound harsh.

Message edited by author 2006-05-10 20:24:48.
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05/08/2006 02:40:58 AM
Nice shot with a really adecuate crop. You captured well an action moment. Composition is nice, with the diagonal created by the girl in red. The colors seem a bit washed to me, maybe you could work it to have little more contrast. The focus is OK, but sharpness in your subject could be a little more tack.
To improve: the BG is a bit distracting, with that people on a tent.
Good job overall.

Ãlex.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/08/2006 12:56:35 AM
I disagree with the other commenters about the color. It looks great to me. It's nice to see a more natural looking photo. :)
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 Comments Made During the Challenge
05/07/2006 07:35:17 PM
Great shot for the challenge
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/07/2006 07:35:27 AM
quite blurry but good composition
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/06/2006 10:58:59 PM
overexposed/washed out, focused on the wrong player, crooked, just kinda messy lookin. at least this is real photojournalism unlike half this challenge though...
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/05/2006 09:09:35 PM
Would make a good picture in the local sports section of a paper.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/05/2006 09:59:11 AM
Nice contact captured. I find the background people distracting.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/03/2006 07:47:19 AM
oh, the girls play football ... always interesting to look at it
about the photo: good action, the colors are not good, increase the contrast and saturate the red and green ... that would do it

:-)
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/01/2006 01:48:39 PM
Main subject seriously out-of-focus and in need of saturation. Plus side is the ball is in the picture. 4
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/01/2006 10:55:42 AM
Nice sport capture. I'm a bit distracted by the people in the b/g though.
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