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Judi


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Challenge: Landscape III (Expert Editing*)
Collection: Challenges Landscape
Camera: Canon EOS-5D
Lens: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM
Location: Australia
Date: Apr 16, 2007
Aperture: Blinking
ISO: Enough
Shutter: Quick
Galleries: Landscape, Digital Art
Date Uploaded: Apr 16, 2007

The entire image except for the mermaid was taken at the same time looking in the same direction. There are 3 images in there...all at different exposures but all from the same spot on the sand and the same time frame. The water splashing was as it shows....not swapped from another side.

The mermaid shot was taken on a rock 5 meters to the left of this one but facing the land. So she was between the land and myself on a rock that is about 6 foot tall. That rock was completely underwater in the splashing shot. but the lighting was the same for all images.

Maybe I don't know how to use PS. But at least I try.

BTW - This image only just reached a 6 score the day before finishing. It started with a 1 vote and continued to get many more.

Statistics
Place: 57 out of 308
Avg (all users): 6.3242
Avg (commenters): 8.1515
Avg (participants): 6.2391
Avg (non-participants): 6.3720
Views since voting: 2005
Views during voting: 618
Votes: 256
Comments: 64
Favorites: 11 (view)


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AuthorThread
12/06/2007 10:15:10 AM
I really am WOWED by this photography. I think the technicals for the most part are excellent and it's one of those, that I can't stop looking at. Great job.
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05/22/2007 03:42:35 PM
What a freaking amazing photo! This is gorgeous. Good job on the editing. It gives it such a surreal flavor. I wish I got ideas like this (and that I lived by a beach!!). And can I say, I'm pretty proud I could tell this was yours! :)
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/19/2007 05:57:30 PM
Originally posted by HighNooner:

Originally posted by HighNooner:

The volume light is going in too many directions!! The wave should break from behind the girl same direction of the waves. The colors of the sky do not match. poor job of mixing the breaking wave with the clouds above it.
The light on the bird is coming from the wrong direction.
Powerful editing tools in the wrong hands. 1


Is that why you hate me? I did not know it was you. This is just a bad phots, as I said:Powerful editing tools in the wrong hands


Thank! So according to you I should quit photography and everything associated with it. I am obviously not as good as you. As you have implied in this thread.....only the elite like your images and the rest of us are not real photographers. And yet your score treats everyone like rubbish...even those elite photographers you rave about. And yet you claim to be able to pick all three winners of certain challenges as the only 10's you gave out...which means you gave everyone else ones.

Go take a flying jump mate!
05/19/2007 01:16:43 PM
Originally posted by HighNooner:

The volume light is going in too many directions!! The wave should break from behind the girl same direction of the waves. The colors of the sky do not match. poor job of mixing the breaking wave with the clouds above it.
The light on the bird is coming from the wrong direction.
Powerful editing tools in the wrong hands. 1


Is that why you hate me? I did not know it was you. This is just a bad phots, as I said:Powerful editing tools in the wrong hands
04/28/2007 11:15:57 PM
Awesome image. VERY artistic. Love it.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/27/2007 10:56:04 PM
Count me among your fans on this, Judi. I think it's spectacular. I don't understand where the mermaid was shot, though - on a rock that was underwater when you took the other shots? Hmm?

The DPC score, and much more so the histogram, shows a community still very divided over this style vs. "normal" photography. Regardless, this is a fantastic piece of art, so be proud of it!
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/25/2007 06:58:41 PM
I love this!!!!! Going in my favorites!!!!!!!!!
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04/25/2007 04:44:48 PM
So you went all the way with this and caused a bit of a stir for yourself. Not a bad road to travel at all if you ask me. Prompting a response, good or bad is alot better that going unnoticed wouldn't you say. In the end you've got an image that I'm sure kills in full size and demonstrates your ability to present YOUR visions in YOUR way beautifully. In short, you are one who CAN.

TIHadi

The volume light is going in too many directions!! The wave should break from behind the girl same direction of the waves. The colors of the sky do not match. poor job of mixing the breaking wave with the clouds above it.
The light on the bird is coming from the wrong direction.
Powerful editing tools in the wrong hands. 1

Those that CAN, DO and those that CAN'T... insult and criticize. As I stated earlier, 'Prompting a response, good or bad is alot better than going unnoticed'. Ask Mr. TIHadi to explain that to you... he's very well acquainted with going unoticed and his opinion has as much impact and depth as his images do.
Powerful editing tool in the wrong hands... perhaps... :P
I'll take his opinion more seriously when HIS images do more than simply occupy space... and so should YOU!
Rd

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04/25/2007 12:47:04 PM
Judi -

I was also curious to see how the digital art vs photograph debate would play out with your shot. However, I have to say despite my affinity for a more traditional style I gave you my highest vote.

I just couldn't deny the skill it took to create this image so seamlessly. I'm shocked it didn't score much higher. Great work!
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/25/2007 12:13:26 PM
I love it and I feel it is very photographic. Nice work! It is too bad that those who can't...hate. But what are you gonna do some are just jealous I guess.

Message edited by author 2007-04-25 12:14:11.
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04/25/2007 11:02:57 AM
Judi - I think you used Photoshop quite well on this. It's a wonderful piece of art. However, that being said, I also think this seems too much like a digital graphic that goes over the edge of maintaining photographic integrity.

You had a wide range of votes on this and I think the DPC community is still trying to decide whether 'Expert Editing' is a good fit for what's been more or less fairly traditional photography for the past several years.

I pulled the following quote from the Expert Editing (Trial) Challenge Rules.

"You are encouraged to keep your entries photographic in nature, and voters are encouraged to rate entries accordingly."

Obviously this is JMO, and I'm one of those old-fashioned conservative types. :P
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04/25/2007 07:38:38 AM
wow, i thought this wouldve done better. It's a great photo.
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04/25/2007 01:17:17 AM
Curious about your comments, I read them all...definitely some strong reactions to go with a strong photo. Well, at least no one is ever going to say the photo is "dull" or "boring"...Right?!!! ;-)
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/25/2007 01:16:04 AM
I never expected this picture to be yours. Not your style of images but like I said during voting, This is very good editing and you took this to the max. Good Job Judi.
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04/25/2007 12:57:53 AM
Beautiful work Judi! This scored a 10 from me. Love the fury of the elements shown here. This was a winner in my book!
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04/25/2007 12:54:33 AM
Well done Judi, and this is the first I have heard that the sea is not part of this great land, keep smiling.
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04/25/2007 12:51:06 AM
You really need to make this into a print. It's stunning!
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04/25/2007 12:40:04 AM
i thought this was the winner for sure Judi... so disappointed. Dont let the anti-post processing hawks get you down, you were one of the few who really took full advantage of the expert editing!

-lauren
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04/25/2007 12:32:22 AM
I was curious as to where it finished...I told you I thought it was great and didn't contribute to the outcome because I only commented. I don't see much wrong with the image itself. I don't get the negative comments related to simply the image. Oh well..
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/25/2007 12:15:16 AM
I loved this Judi, and feel is so deserved a much higher placement.....
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/25/2007 12:13:50 AM
Originally posted by aerogurl:



I never EVER give one's. You would be shocked if you saw where the red line was. Just because I didnt agree didnt mean I gave it a 1. If you msg me I will screen cap and show you what score I gave you.


I apologize if I thought you gave a one. Regardless of what you gave...I respect it...! I am not angry with you...but I wanted to explain why I didn't mark it as helpful, as I don't agree with what you wrote. But, that's not to say that I don't respect your opinion.
04/25/2007 12:07:21 AM
Originally posted by Judi:

Originally posted by aerogurl:

First of all, this is not a landscape, its a seascape. Its overprocessed and DNMC. It is a beautiful image tho.


That is your call. There is land within the shot. It is a landscape. But that is my opinion......not yours. I respect your vote of 1, I don't agree with it...but I do respect your choice.


I never EVER give one's. You would be shocked if you saw where the red line was. Just because I didnt agree didnt mean I gave it a 1. If you msg me I will screen cap and show you what score I gave you.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/25/2007 12:02:36 AM
Originally posted by TIHadi:

The volume light is going in too many directions!! The wave should break from behind the girl same direction of the waves. The colors of the sky do not match. poor job of mixing the breaking wave with the clouds above it.
The light on the bird is coming from the wrong direction.
Powerful editing tools in the wrong hands. 1


You are so wrong. The entire image except for the mermaid was taken at the same time looking in the same direction. There are 3 images in there...all at different exposures but all from the same spot on the sand and the same time frame. The water splashing was as it shows....not swapped from another side.

The mermaid shot was taken on a rock 5 meters to the left of this one but facing the land. So she was between the land and myself on a rock that is about 6 foot tall. That rock was completely underwater in the splashing shot. but the lighting was the same for all images.

Maybe I don't know how to use PS. But at least I try. You get upset over someone giving you a one...well I think you need to explain to the public why you felt that my image was so poorly done that it only deserved a one.

I personally would like to challenge you to a showdown of the same technique and conditions. Put your money where your mouth is.

04/25/2007 12:02:14 AM
Originally posted by aerogurl:

First of all, this is not a landscape, its a seascape. Its overprocessed and DNMC. It is a beautiful image tho.


That is your call. There is land within the shot. It is a landscape. But that is my opinion......not yours. I respect your vote of 1, I don't agree with it...but I do respect your choice.
 Comments Made During the Challenge
04/24/2007 11:33:51 PM
very high impact and well lit, good story...8 with 30min to go bumping ...9
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04/24/2007 11:02:03 PM
FUN!
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04/24/2007 10:37:36 PM
Wow one of the only images that I can tell the use of expert editing, and it looks great too.
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04/24/2007 09:29:32 PM
I find this photo wonderfully dramatic and beautifully composed. Originally, I gave this photo a 9 and will not change that score, but returned to comment because I think the post processing is astounding.
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04/24/2007 08:36:24 PM
awesome
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04/24/2007 08:10:33 PM
10, and the winner of the challenge for me, hands down.
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04/24/2007 05:55:32 PM
Well if you are going to go all the way with editing as done here I would have wanted to see it better done. It´s not bad at all but the lighting of the water and especially the girl is not very convincing when you look at the scene. Her hair is poorly masked out, I know that is the hardest part but it´s not done well enough.

Result is a 5 vote from me as I can´t say if I like it or not.
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04/24/2007 01:04:46 PM
Awesome fantasy photograph. Very well conceived & executed. Good luck in the challenge! 10
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04/24/2007 12:20:54 PM
This is leaning more towards digital art instead of photography. Its just a little surreal for my taste.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/24/2007 07:52:24 AM
This is so perfect in every way. finally someone that took the Expert editing to the max.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/24/2007 06:06:09 AM
Very nicely done. Beauty work.
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04/24/2007 04:12:52 AM
You must be a Photoshop Genius! Beautiful!
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04/24/2007 03:44:24 AM
Love it

Its gotta be the winner
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04/23/2007 06:36:45 PM
the hair and the wave and the sun make this for me and the bird and the rock. and the colors. Did I mention that I like the hair? The light seems a bit strange but you must have used a powerful strobe ;]

8
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04/23/2007 05:50:09 PM
Wow! Amazing! It looks like a painting. How did you manage to ever get everything just right with the lady's (mermaid?) position and blowing hair, crashing wave, seagull, sun? Since this is expert editing is it multiple images superimposed? 10
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/23/2007 03:16:24 AM
WOW, what an interesting shot! very nice, the water is amazing!!! 9
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04/22/2007 04:10:40 PM
10
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04/22/2007 01:17:18 PM
WOW - what a creation! Love the tones and furious composition. Well done! 10
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04/22/2007 12:41:19 PM
shiii... Excellent...
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04/21/2007 04:48:51 PM
The volume light is going in too many directions!! The wave should break from behind the girl same direction of the waves. The colors of the sky do not match. poor job of mixing the breaking wave with the clouds above it.
The light on the bird is coming from the wrong direction.
Powerful editing tools in the wrong hands. 1
04/21/2007 01:11:18 AM
Nice!
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04/20/2007 11:43:31 PM
A little too PP'ed for my taste but none less deserving of a 10 from me. Amazing work.
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04/20/2007 10:19:47 AM
Oh my goodness! This is awesome. Great job on the editing and great idea. Judi? maybe.... 9
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04/19/2007 07:31:18 PM
First of all, this is not a landscape, its a seascape. Its overprocessed and DNMC. It is a beautiful image tho.
04/19/2007 05:14:00 PM
Beautiful composite
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04/19/2007 03:55:24 PM
It's nice to see the expert editing rules in the hands of someone who really knows how to take advantage of them to produce an outstanding result. Very nicely done.
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04/19/2007 10:59:22 AM
Extreme, but well done
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04/19/2007 04:53:08 AM
A little too heavy on the editing. Nice shot, although I think it would have been better with just the rock.
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04/18/2007 09:31:05 PM
I like this fantasy one.....
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04/18/2007 07:49:28 PM
Too much going on here
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/18/2007 07:22:21 PM
Wow...way to use the rules to full effect!
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04/18/2007 06:58:17 PM
The winner!
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04/18/2007 05:45:08 PM
ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. The landscape witha midground subject. Expert editing, so you were creative and very original. I can't thank you enough for breaking up the monotony of "landcape" with something that tells a magnificent story. 11!
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04/18/2007 11:55:29 AM
Breathtaking!!
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04/18/2007 10:02:08 AM
pretty cool, but a bit overdone for my taste. Good idea, nice detail, flat horizon...7
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04/18/2007 09:54:06 AM
WOW WOW WOW One of the first shots I looked at when scoring. You set the bar really high = 10
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04/18/2007 07:15:50 AM
well done
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04/18/2007 04:33:09 AM
Crazy beautiful.... how in the world did you get her out there and how did she stay there.....
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04/18/2007 01:36:50 AM
about time someone did some advanced processing - some of the photos I've voted on look as if they would fit in a minimalist editing challenge.

I like the drama you've got going on here, only issue is that the OOF waves in the foreground dont fit in with the hyper processed feel of the rest of the photo
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04/18/2007 12:20:03 AM
You should have really saved this for the free study. You would have won. So even though this is a truly masterful image, this is not a landscape shot. I am not voting so don't worry, I just wanted to pass on a comment.
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