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Challenge: Painting with Light (Advanced Editing I)
Camera: Canon EOS-300D Rebel
Location: kitchen
Date: Jan 23, 2004
Aperture: 13
ISO: 100
Shutter: 1/60
Galleries: Macro, Floral
Date Uploaded: Jan 23, 2004

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Statistics
Place: 54 out of 120
Avg (all users): 5.3871
Avg (commenters): 5.9091
Avg (participants): 5.0000
Avg (non-participants): 5.6667
Views since voting: 1283
Votes: 186
Comments: 12
Favorites: 1 (view)


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02/02/2004 12:27:51 AM
Absolutely gorgeous shot. The detail you show in your photo is mazing. The flower is "full of light". Too bad people didn't see that. Well done IMO.
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02/01/2004 05:52:41 PM
Astounding detail, every vein is clear and focused, I can count the pollen spores. Super exposure and lighting. What lense did you use?
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01/30/2004 04:46:56 PM
You may have wanted to take advantage of the editing rules and done some spot editing on the various blemishes including the piece of dust or lint in the lower right corner. Nice photo otherwise.
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01/28/2004 06:15:31 AM
flat....lack of contrast...
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01/28/2004 05:12:43 AM
Very good that you have managed to get so many shades of yellow into the picture including the background. had the background been poorly thought out it would have been ruined. However
I am copying in some text that I have also sent to some of the other entries.
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I would like to explain a little more my reasons for reducing the score on this entry. That way even if you disagree/agree, you will understand my rationale.

Firstly, -
I have been lucky for the last 25 years of my 30 in photography to have been able to judge (I dread to think) many hundred competitions for local photographic societies, magazines, industry and professional photographic organisations some with very considerable prizemoney/professional awards/photographic qualifications. The method I and other judges are enforced to use is the method I continue to use. This has its limitations. Normally with a competition it would be that you were looking at a print or slide. That makes a huge difference. In many competitions the opportunity is there to see (handwritten) exposure times, details, technique etc. That also helps.The DPchallenge forum is the first time I have judged photographs on-line. There are many problems with this. Different monitor calibrations being possibly the most problematical. Lower resolution of photographs remove some of the subtlety and nuance of a picture which may be apparent in a print. This results in having to make a "what you see is what you get" judgement. Not ideal in any way.

Normally in competitions, many hundreds of photographs are placed in front of you and you have only 2 or 3 seconds to eliminate the first batch it is important that it "appears" to fit the criteria. This is the sticking point. You may have used the correct method/technique and the picture could be 100% but if in that 2/3 seconds it did not "appear" to be painted with light - thats where the rejection comes. Very unfair I know, but can you see where I am coming from?

Having to check techniques where there was ambiguity would make the task impossible.
I also think it fair to say that in an educational setting - when teaching photographic technique - "painting with light" does still have a very narrow definition. That is not to say that the end photograph has to look like it has been "PWL". The end result could, if that is the required end, still look ordinary. Interiors are a classic example. In order to get sufficent illumination of a large auditorium for example, painting with light would almost certainly be used but you would not want the end result to look as if it had been "PWL". That picture could therefore be a classic example of "PWL" but in a competition could be about as much use as a chocolate tea-pot!

The problem with this sort of competition is that two people could submit almost identical photographs, Both beautiful, both appearing to be lit in the same way - One may have thought of "PWL" in the photographic sense (moving light or built up light source) the second thinking of "PWL" in the artistic sense - (a beautiful picture simply using light to make an object the image) - How do you judge these? Do you see my difficulty - It is almost a case of asking you "Please don't do it so well so I can see how you did it!"

I do hope I have been able to put my point of view across and that I have not been misunderstood.
Text is difficult to write without sometimes it being read in a harsh way when in fact had the words been spoken, it would have been interpreted in the way it was meant.

David
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01/27/2004 10:21:18 PM
A bit more contrast would have helped. Also, where did the dust spots come from?
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01/27/2004 03:41:34 PM
Great detail
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01/26/2004 09:10:09 PM
Nice soft color
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01/26/2004 01:00:08 PM
I like you macro but wish it had more contrast to give it depth.
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01/26/2004 09:24:42 AM
beautiful..
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01/26/2004 07:18:19 AM
Gorgeous pure color.
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01/26/2004 12:18:40 AM
Where's the non-stationary light source??
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