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Camera: Canon EOS-5D
Lens: Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM
Location: Paris in my studio
Date: Aug 3, 2007
Galleries: Portraiture, Nude
Date Uploaded: Aug 10, 2007

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Comments: 15
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 01/21/2008 05:35:03 PM
stunning subject & photograph
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 10/21/2007 03:41:20 PM
This is just amazing. The illumination is excellent, very well done.
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 09/14/2007 10:32:48 PM
Hey Toy

I have been admiring your work since I have joined this site. You certainly have perfected the art of lighting your models and capturing great expression from them. I will not judge whether they should be smoking or not. I am not the one trying to portray a message(whatever that maybe).. you are and that's what matters.In my opinion photgraphs should conjure up emotion from the viewer and your shots(judging by the comments ) have done that. So keep up the excellent work you do!!

I would also like to add that I have relied on this site for tips and techniques used by the fine photographers on here to help me learn the craft. Not sure you are willing to share but I would like to see some explanation on your setups and postprocessing work on how you achieve such great photos.
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 08/30/2007 10:28:47 PM
This controversy is a little ironic considering you're a health nut and all :P

Nice shot by the way, odd posing but it works.
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 08/15/2007 09:17:38 PM
ignite, you wierdo, all I notice in this picture is the hot naked lady :P

Ah who cares about cigarettes and how bad they are for you, I don´t smoke and absolutely detest the act of smoking but I love quite a few people who do smoke and I don´t judge them, who cares who is smoking in a photograph or not, can you smell it off the screen?

Nice shot Laurent, love the lighting :)
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 08/13/2007 10:18:12 AM
Excellent lighting......Love the model too!!
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 08/13/2007 08:03:50 AM
Hey, we all agree that ciggies are bad. As long as this isn't an ad for ciggies, it's ok :-) I just noticed something though. Her eyes are not balanced. It seems her right eye is more open, which is distracting...
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 08/11/2007 08:34:03 AM
Originally posted by Toyan:

OK... "Personally, I oppose making cigarettes look sexy. That's how you get young people started on that awful habit": you are making such a big deal out of it. Seriously mate, there is not a single movie in which Nicolas Cage isn't smoking. He is American and he plays in American movies (Brad Pitt is also having fun with ciggies in many many of his movies).
Here is where I want to get: The comon point between photography and cinema is ART. No matter what you do with it, the cigarette has always been an utmost important accessory until today, and it's a fact.
Answer to your last question: Yes it is a real cigarette but there wasn't smoke coming out in this particular shot. I had her smoking probably 10 ciggies but I eventually chose that picture. Shame isn't it ;)


But I'm not making a big deal about it at all. I was just expressing my opinion in the tamest of ways and just wondering whether the difference of opinion broke down along international lines according to our respective societies' tolerance and intolerance for smoking and respect for the rights of non-smokers. And what do I care about Nicolas Cage, Brad Pitt or Hollywood in general? But, I definitely disagree with you about the cigarette being an utmost important accessory today. In France, perhaps, which is unfortunate because I love France. But it's certainly NOT universal -- but then, I care nothing for fashion accessories. In much of the U.S. today (including New York City) it's illegal to smoke in bars and restaurants. It started in California and is sweeping the country. Thank God! Luckily, Omanis don't smoke too much (except the occasional sheesha).

Oh, and by the way, most of the major tobacco corporations of the world are American as well -- a fact which shames me. They target children with their advertising, deny the dangers and addiction of smoking, and manipulate the amount of nicotine in the cigarette in order to get new customers. Merchants of death, I say!

I love your work though.

Message edited by author 2007-08-11 08:40:53.
 08/11/2007 05:14:04 AM
Originally posted by OmanOtter:
Interesting difference of opinion re: the cigarette. I wonder if it breaks down along national lines. Europeans, especially French, still smoke like chimneys; whereas, in the U.S., the rights of non-smokers are defended more vigorously. Personally, I agree that the cigarette in this picture takes a sexy woman and makes her undesirable. (She would smell bad; and kissing her would be like licking an ashtray). Toyan: I think it's odd that you didn't mark the anti-cigarette comments as helpful, since it gives you insight into the range of reactions to your photo. They're not comments against you. Personally, I oppose making cigarettes look sexy. That's how you get young people started on that awful habit. And it feeds the stock prices of the big tobacco corporations who manipulate the amount of nicotine in cigarettes to create the addiction. Anyway, my final comment relates to the first thing I noticed in the pic: how come there's no smoke coming from the cigarette? Is it really lit? Just curious.


OK... "Personally, I oppose making cigarettes look sexy. That's how you get young people started on that awful habit": you are making such a big deal out of it. Seriously mate, there is not a single movie in which Nicolas Cage isn't smoking. He is American and he plays in American movies (Brad Pitt is also having fun with ciggies in many many of his movies).
Here is where I want to get: The comon point between photography and cinema is ART. No matter what you do with it, the cigarette has always been an utmost important accessory until today, and it's a fact.
Answer to your last question: Yes it is a real cigarette but there wasn't smoke coming out in this particular shot. I had her smoking probably 10 ciggies but I eventually chose that picture. Shame isn't it ;)
 08/11/2007 12:13:52 AM
Interesting difference of opinion re: the cigarette. I wonder if it breaks down along national lines. Europeans, especially French, still smoke like chimneys; whereas, in the U.S., the rights of non-smokers are defended more vigorously. Personally, I agree that the cigarette in this picture takes a sexy woman and makes her undesirable. (She would smell bad; and kissing her would be like licking an ashtray). Toyan: I think it's odd that you didn't mark the anti-cigarette comments as helpful, since it gives you insight into the range of reactions to your photo. They're not comments against you. Personally, I oppose making cigarettes look sexy. That's how you get young people started on that awful habit. And it feeds the stock prices of the big tobacco corporations who manipulate the amount of nicotine in cigarettes to create the addiction. Anyway, my final comment relates to the first thing I noticed in the pic: how come there's no smoke coming from the cigarette? Is it really lit? Just curious.
 08/10/2007 07:07:51 PM
Lighting is spot on, pose is great, model is beautiful
And the cigarette adds something special to the shot

Kev
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 08/10/2007 04:18:33 PM
There's nothing wrong with holding a cigarette. It is sexy.
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 08/10/2007 11:18:59 AM
OK... for your information, she is holding a cigarette for the purpose of the shot. Nothing more. And no, she isn't smoking to stay thin. And yes, I think a cigarette look very sexy on a photograph.
Therefore, if I follow your point, we should blame ALL the films noirs of the 40s and the 50s ? ;)
 08/10/2007 11:11:18 AM
kill the cigarette, and it's a perfect shot!

It's so sad how many folks (espec women) use that nasty habit to stay thin..and end up paying for it later with their health (there's my medical 2cents worth for today! :)
08/10/2007 11:07:42 AM
very unfortunate for the model to be holding a cigarette - it is an outstanding image otherwise


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