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Challenge: Fairy Tales III (Advanced Editing VII)
Collection: 2010-11-12
Camera: Nikon D200
Lens: Sigma 150mm f/2.8 EX APO Macro EX DG HSM for Nikon
Location: Trail, BC (Canada)
Date: Sep 21, 2010
Aperture: F2.8
ISO: 100
Shutter: varied (bracketed)
Galleries: Emotive, Nature
Date Uploaded: Sep 26, 2010

Actually, the real title is "bittersweet".

I've been experimenting with HDR, and in particular with HDR and shallow DOF. This is a picture created from a series of 5 bracketed exposures, shot RAW, tripod, macro lens fully open, warming polarizer.

The 5 exposures were converted to an HDR file and tonemapped in Photomatix. I did not save the settings for this, and I fiddled around a fair bit to get the look I wanted; I'm not sure I can replicate it precisely. Saved as TIFF/16, opened in PSCS4, cropped, worked to adjust tone/contrast/colours, cloned out distractions (stray grasses/leaves), I think that's it. Resized, sharpened, saved for web.


Statistics
Place: 6 out of 65
Avg (all users): 6.6903
Avg (commenters): 8.0000
Avg (participants): 6.6667
Avg (non-participants): 6.6983
Views since voting: 3036
Views during voting: 403
Votes: 155
Comments: 45
Favorites: 26 (view)


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10/17/2012 06:18:31 PM
What a delightful and original use of the processes.
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12/30/2010 09:32:01 PM
Heh, still waiting... (hint hint) LOL

Happy New Year!!
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12/30/2010 09:21:53 PM
Hmm... I seem to have given this a 6 in voting but as I look at it again I really love it. Not sure why I gave it a low score at the time but this is a beautiful image that truly has emotion. Too bad I can't change my vote now.
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12/30/2010 02:02:14 PM
Excellent :)
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10/05/2010 02:06:44 PM
I love this! Very painterly. Great work!
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10/05/2010 12:58:55 PM
This is grand Ursula congrats on great results without using people or props. Thanks for the technical info, I am inspired to do more experimenting.
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10/05/2010 11:34:08 AM
Love this image. Congrats on your fine finish, Ursula. Excellent work.
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10/05/2010 12:53:44 AM
Originally posted by yanko:

What I thought you did was combine focus and OOF shots together. I agree with you that it should be legal since as you say it's advance editing. I just had it in my mind that the SC was strict with that one rule and you're the only one that I've seen use it in an artistic manner.


No, I didn't, not this time with this picture. All 5 shots at very shallow DOF, but no combinations of in focus/oof images. I love to do that, it is an old technique that goes by different names ("defocusing" is one name), but I understand it just isn't "legal" here for whatever reason. It doesn't matter, a person doesn't have to do everything at every place.
10/05/2010 12:40:28 AM
Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by yanko:

Curious, have you been validated using this technique before? By that I mean the way you used the multiple exposures to help create the artistic effect. I was under the impression that the rule was very limited in that it could only be used as a means to correct an image or maintain image integrity. Basically, I thought it could only be used to include the full dynamic range of a scene, increase DOF for macros or improve the signal to noise ratio for long exposures. Then again I've been out of the loop for awhile so I probably didn't get the memo. :)


Not sure, I haven't been asked for validation. I assumed it was a valid technique, to use bracketed exposures for the creation of an image, regardless of whether the intent was to achieve the traditional HDR look, or a different look. The technique is the same. I'd be interested in finding out :)

Richard, why wouldn't it be a valid thing to do, in advanced? Are you saying that "intent" has something to do with using more than one image to create a final image? I mean, I could just phrase it that it was a bracketed set to increase the dynamic range (which it was), except that my "intent" wasn't to increase the dynamic range but to figure out if bracketed HDR-like compositions would work with shallow DOF. Interesting question. I wouldn't think that "intent" has much of anything to do with the rule about using sequential files of the same scene.

Come to think of it, maybe it's best that the question doesn't even come up to SC :) After all, if this is disqualified for some reason like "the intent wasn't true HDR", it would make me very sad, and I rather not be sad. Anyway. I don't think it's against the rules. If it is, well, I'd have to say, "Wow, weird!"

It just occurred to me, Richard. Are you thinking that the pictures in the bracketed set were not all the same? They were exactly the same except for the shutter time, focusing or other settings weren't changed.


What I thought you did was combine focus and OOF shots together. I agree with you that it should be legal since as you say it's advance editing. I just had it in my mind that the SC was strict with that one rule and you're the only one that I've seen use it in an artistic manner.
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10/04/2010 11:40:46 PM
Originally posted by Melethia:

I think it is a perfectly valid use of HDR and I think perhaps some are mis-reading what you did. I know I did the first time you told me about it - I thought it was a series of shots with different focal planes (which is indeed legal in advanced - I recall ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Heisch did a bug that way.) But what I think you're saying (and correct me if I'm wrong!) is you shot all the exposures at the same shallow DOF aperture setting and used the HDR to emphasize that shallow DOF. No different than using HDR to emphasize details, bring out shadows, etc.

Oh, and nice to see this do well here, too!


Yes, exactly. Same shallow DOF, but HDRed. :)
10/04/2010 10:31:42 PM
I think it is a perfectly valid use of HDR and I think perhaps some are mis-reading what you did. I know I did the first time you told me about it - I thought it was a series of shots with different focal planes (which is indeed legal in advanced - I recall ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Heisch did a bug that way.) But what I think you're saying (and correct me if I'm wrong!) is you shot all the exposures at the same shallow DOF aperture setting and used the HDR to emphasize that shallow DOF. No different than using HDR to emphasize details, bring out shadows, etc.

Oh, and nice to see this do well here, too!
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10/04/2010 09:09:36 PM
Originally posted by yanko:

Curious, have you been validated using this technique before? By that I mean the way you used the multiple exposures to help create the artistic effect. I was under the impression that the rule was very limited in that it could only be used as a means to correct an image or maintain image integrity. Basically, I thought it could only be used to include the full dynamic range of a scene, increase DOF for macros or improve the signal to noise ratio for long exposures. Then again I've been out of the loop for awhile so I probably didn't get the memo. :)


Not sure, I haven't been asked for validation. I assumed it was a valid technique, to use bracketed exposures for the creation of an image, regardless of whether the intent was to achieve the traditional HDR look, or a different look. The technique is the same. I'd be interested in finding out :)

Richard, why wouldn't it be a valid thing to do, in advanced? Are you saying that "intent" has something to do with using more than one image to create a final image? I mean, I could just phrase it that it was a bracketed set to increase the dynamic range (which it was), except that my "intent" wasn't to increase the dynamic range but to figure out if bracketed HDR-like compositions would work with shallow DOF. Interesting question. I wouldn't think that "intent" has much of anything to do with the rule about using sequential files of the same scene.

Come to think of it, maybe it's best that the question doesn't even come up to SC :) After all, if this is disqualified for some reason like "the intent wasn't true HDR", it would make me very sad, and I rather not be sad. Anyway. I don't think it's against the rules. If it is, well, I'd have to say, "Wow, weird!"

It just occurred to me, Richard. Are you thinking that the pictures in the bracketed set were not all the same? They were exactly the same except for the shutter time, focusing or other settings weren't changed.

Message edited by author 2010-10-04 21:20:55.
10/04/2010 09:02:29 PM
Curious, have you been validated using this technique before? By that I mean the way you used the multiple exposures to help create the artistic effect. I was under the impression that the rule was very limited in that it could only be used as a means to correct an image or maintain image integrity. Basically, I thought it could only be used to include the full dynamic range of a scene, increase DOF for macros or improve the signal to noise ratio for long exposures. Then again I've been out of the loop for awhile so I probably didn't get the memo. :)

Message edited by author 2010-10-04 21:05:17.
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10/04/2010 10:41:56 AM
Yes, this ethereal image received a high score from me because it just seemed as if it "Should" be in Fairyland.
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10/04/2010 08:27:28 AM
Splendid!!!!! Like I said, I'd love this on canvas. WOWZA Should have won the blue.
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10/04/2010 04:58:37 AM
Mouth is agape at the beauty of this jewel of a photograph. It comes to life, it's got spirit.
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10/04/2010 04:27:15 AM
Fabulous I love this so well done
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10/04/2010 03:42:40 AM
This was one of my 10s, wonderful colors and mood. Feels like I've seen this in a dream.
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10/04/2010 01:07:33 AM
There is such a magical quality to this image. Wonderful. Thank you!
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10/04/2010 01:03:10 AM
Stunning, so full of feeling and life!
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10/04/2010 12:14:51 AM
Super Job! Love this.
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
10/03/2010 11:28:15 PM
I really love this capture, and your pp. Maybe not apply 100% to this challenge, but I'm voting 9..nice work!
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10/03/2010 08:45:45 PM
Good Art ! 10
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10/03/2010 10:17:29 AM
This is just beautiful!!! I don't give out too many 10s but I'm compelled to for this photo.
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10/03/2010 09:35:34 AM
Perfect for the challenge. Beautiful image.
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10/01/2010 05:16:59 PM
6
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09/30/2010 08:53:07 AM
I really like this shot/processing. It definitely has a fairy tale feel to it.
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09/29/2010 09:47:05 AM
Nice one seen on 1x.com today.
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09/29/2010 08:59:31 AM
Gorgeous image; very dreamlike.
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09/29/2010 06:28:31 AM
very nice - i'm sure someone else will say like a painting but there is a kind of falling into the image feeling about this 8
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09/28/2010 11:57:42 PM
beautiful
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09/28/2010 10:02:58 PM
Beautiful color; looks like a painting.
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09/28/2010 10:01:57 PM
Nice work Ursula
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09/28/2010 09:08:01 AM
My top pick for this challenge.
- It's a relief from all the banal faeries, pixies and butterflies.
- It inspires me to construct my own fairy tale.
- It reassures me that the photographer has vision.
- It's really quite beautiful, both within and without the context.
Thank you.
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09/28/2010 08:32:23 AM
i really like the 'painting' feel of this
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09/28/2010 01:24:03 AM
Very pretty.
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09/27/2010 10:46:31 PM
looks like an ursula, beauty
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09/27/2010 03:34:39 PM
very dreamy quality; loving the colors
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09/27/2010 11:59:16 AM
Oh my goodness. This is so ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Ursula to me. Breathtaking movement and colors, exquisitely processed. A fave.
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09/27/2010 09:03:35 AM
All I can say is - LOVELY!
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09/27/2010 08:39:58 AM
There is NOTHING about this that I don't adore. Please offer this on canvas. I'd buy it. Just superb. The colors and dreamlike quality are a perfect setting for a mystical tale. 10 10 10
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09/27/2010 06:17:36 AM
The colors, depth of field, and processing definitely have a "fairy tale" feeling to them, but since fairy tales always talk about people and how they interact with these magical objects, I wish there was some human element in this. I still really like the image anyway.
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09/27/2010 12:48:06 AM
nice pp!
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09/27/2010 12:36:30 AM
LOVE IT!!!
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09/27/2010 12:13:45 AM
One of the best photos I've seen at 1x
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