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 11/29/2012 06:29:31 PM · #1
So, I thought of an idea for my Mom's X-Mas present.
A little background; My parents used to have this painting of an old wrinkled man gorging himself with spaghetti. He seemed to be Italian and about turn of the 20th century. It was a pretty dramatic low key piece, and if I remember correctly he was using two forks with his face low to the plate but looking kinda toward the painter.

When my Dad died, my Mom lost the house and the picture was never seen again. I would like to recreate the shot but with myself eating the pasta, and frame it for her. I've searched the internet to try to find it to get the lighting and orientation close to no avail...

Anyone ever seen this one?

thanks in advance...
 11/29/2012 06:35:03 PM · #2
Only thing that comes to kind is this

Alberto Sordi
 11/29/2012 06:38:07 PM · #3
Originally posted by mrchhas:
Only thing that comes to kind is this

Alberto Sordi


Thanks, but No,
He his straight on to the viewer and low key. Not B&W, but pretty dark, maybe some mahogany and golds...

I know I am looking for a needle in a haystack, but I figured I'd ask here also.
 11/29/2012 06:48:21 PM · #4
this?

looks similar to what you described although not too wrinkly nor is looking to the painter. Your description is much better in my opinion.
 11/29/2012 06:51:00 PM · #5
this pasta eater?
 11/29/2012 06:51:45 PM · #6
Is this a challenge suggestion?

Spaghetti Eating

Message edited by author 2012-11-29 18:57:21.
 11/29/2012 06:54:41 PM · #7
THAT'S IT!!
You guys rock!!

THANK YOU!!
 11/29/2012 06:58:12 PM · #8
Damn - I thought it was this guy. Looks pretty darn pasta to me!

11/29/2012 07:02:16 PM · #9
OK, so now for my second request... any idea how to light this? And I have no idea where to get that outfit...


Message edited by author 2012-11-29 19:02:56.
 11/29/2012 07:09:55 PM · #10
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should be easy to get some heavy brown fabric and make one, then a leather skull cap

googled monks cassock but expensive results
 11/29/2012 07:10:27 PM · #11
first, you need to find an altar boy and buy yourself a yarmulke. then you need some fat noodles.
Looks like candle light, sepia tone.
 11/29/2012 07:50:31 PM · #12
Do a search for the Pope eating corn on the cob..then photoshop the rest. ;)
 11/29/2012 07:58:41 PM · #13
Originally posted by sinistral_leo:
OK, so now for my second request... any idea how to light this?


Looks like a single softbox/umbrella on axis about 10-20 degrees above the camera.
 11/29/2012 08:01:31 PM · #14
It looks like there is one source of light, in front of the spaghetti eater and placed rather high. You can see it from the shadows and from the bright area on his head.
 11/29/2012 08:02:58 PM · #15
I'll post my results; It is going to be a week or so. I just ordered the Monk Costume off eBay.
 11/29/2012 08:41:23 PM · #16
Originally posted by Alexkc:
It looks like there is one source of light, in front of the spaghetti eater and placed rather high. You can see it from the shadows and from the bright area on his head.


Yup -- his hands are making shadows on the table, and the bowl is shadowing straight back, but there's not much of a shadow under the nose... ?
 11/29/2012 08:46:48 PM · #17
Would you settle for a Priest Eating Ramen on canvas? ...cheap.
 11/29/2012 09:22:19 PM · #18
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by Alexkc:
It looks like there is one source of light, in front of the spaghetti eater and placed rather high. You can see it from the shadows and from the bright area on his head.


Yup -- his hands are making shadows on the table, and the bowl is shadowing straight back, but there's not much of a shadow under the nose... ?

His nose hooks down enough to block most of the shadow except right at the edges. I agree a soft light directly in front and probably between 30-45° above as measured along an axis from where his body meets the table.

Those look more like wide egg noodles than regular pasta.

The brownish/yellowish tones are probably from/contributed-to by aging varnish if the original is an oil painting; when new it was probably somewhat more vibrant.

I think the idea of re-creating the picture for your mom is great -- eventually you might want to print it on canvas ...
 11/29/2012 09:41:08 PM · #19
Visit a local synagogue. They usually give the yarmulkes away.
 11/29/2012 10:33:30 PM · #20
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Those look more like wide egg noodles than regular pasta.

The pasta: Pappardelle

Message edited by author 2012-11-29 22:34:29.
 11/29/2012 10:40:36 PM · #21
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Those look more like wide egg noodles than regular pasta.

The pasta: Pappardelle


I'd prefer this one, please.
 11/30/2012 02:49:06 AM · #22
sempermarine can do this 1:1
 12/08/2012 04:47:03 PM · #23
Any suggestions? I know it isn't the same pose, but I liked this one...
I couldn't find any Pappardelle, so I cooked some lasagna and sliced it lengthwise...


Message edited by author 2012-12-08 16:47:53.
 12/08/2012 04:53:59 PM · #24
Nope! you must look directly into the camera lens. It's for your Mom. Light your eyes so she can see them. My opinion.
 12/08/2012 05:09:21 PM · #25
Hmmmmm. As an intepretation, it's ok. As a reproduction...

1. the angle is too high. In the original, the viewer is almost straight on. This makes it more intimate.
2. the pose. The way he's holding the fork and ? makes it look like he's about to eat the pasta. The way you're holding them makes it look like you're about to start a motorcyle.
3. the attitude. He's clearly (happily) anticipating a delicious meal. To me, you look like you're scowling and trying to fend off a pack of hyenas.
4. the table top. This is a matter of personal choice, but I feel that the highly texture wood in your shot is very distracting. Something more even, or even a tablecloth, might be a better choice.
5. the lighting. There are a lot of dark shadows on your face, and IMO not enough separation from the bg (which I also feel is too dark). The face issues can be resolved with a white tablecloth, but the bg will need additional lighting, or be of a lighter color.

Overall, to me this is a much more menacing image than the original, which is rather lighthearted. If that was your intention, yaaay!
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