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07/09/2006 10:15:19 AM · #1
I took a photo with a lot of cables and wires. I can't show it here because I want to submit it into a callenge.

The problem is, that on my computer, when I view the picture, it looks perfect. When I view it on DPC after I submit it, all of the power wires look jagged. It really takes a lot away from the picture.

If I copy-paste the image on the screen from DPC to PS it looks perfect.

It appears to be something with the way IE displays the .JPG.

Does anyone else have this problem?


07/09/2006 10:20:14 AM · #2
What software are you using, how big is the file and what are the other settings you might have set when you saved the .jpg?

It doesn't look like you have had this problem before?

Message edited by author 2006-07-09 10:23:37.
07/09/2006 10:24:28 AM · #3
Originally posted by boomtap:

What software are you using, how big is the file and what are the other settings you might have set when you saved the .jpg?


I have Photoshop CS. Here is the thing, when I view it on the screen in Internet Explorer, it looks jagged. When I hover over the images, and copy it to my clipboard, and paste it into Photoshop, it looks perfect. It appears that Internet Explorer is displaying a 'compressed' image instead of the real one.

I can email you the pic, but since I want to submit it, I can't post it here.
07/09/2006 10:25:31 AM · #4
Sometimes there are slight differences but nothing to the extent you are experiencing. There has to be a reason for it, though.

Without giving specific information about the image itself, can you explain in detail your exact steps to prepare, save and upload your web image to DPC. Include the color space you start from in your post processed image and details of your resizing and what, if any, sharpening that you apply...
07/09/2006 10:26:51 AM · #5
go to tools, internet options, andvanced and then under multimedia, uncheck "smart image resizing"

If it resizes even a small bit it will screw it up.

Message edited by author 2006-07-09 10:39:16.
07/09/2006 10:28:02 AM · #6
view -> proof setup -> Monitor RGB

view -> proof colors

that should be it.

there's also something with a color profile, but not sure about wich settings you need.
07/09/2006 10:32:55 AM · #7
Originally posted by tonytmtsh:

[quote=boomtap] It appears that Internet Explorer is displaying a 'compressed' image instead of the real one.


If you use "Save as..." to create your .jpg output file when saved for DPC in CS2 Photoshop allows three "Format Options" that affect this - "Baseline ("Standard")", "Baseline Optimized", and "Progressive".

You always want to chose "Baseline ("Standard")"
07/09/2006 10:35:48 AM · #8
Originally posted by boomtap:

What software are you using, how big is the file and what are the other settings you might have set when you saved the .jpg?

It doesn't look like you have had this problem before?


The file is 123K .JPG. It''s a crop from a Nikon RAW file exported as a .JPG.

I have tried every option in Photoshop's save for Web.

07/09/2006 10:37:41 AM · #9
I guess I could post the photo. I don't like it with the jagged lines.

Would someone want to give it a whirl that way?
07/09/2006 10:40:23 AM · #10
send it to me, jasoncrossspam@gmail.com
07/09/2006 10:40:29 AM · #11
my suggestion didn't work?
07/09/2006 10:40:57 AM · #12
Here is is. Look at it on DPC, in IE and look at the wires. They look really jagged.

Then save it to your desktop, and look at it on your computer. It's smooth.

[PICTURE NO LONGER AVAILABLE]

Message edited by author 2006-07-09 11:24:50.
07/09/2006 10:43:25 AM · #13
oh crap, I misunderstood the question. sorry.
07/09/2006 10:46:26 AM · #14
it doesnt look jagged on my screen, but it has alot of noise.
07/09/2006 10:47:13 AM · #15
its fine on my computer
07/09/2006 10:52:02 AM · #16
Do you plan on submitting it to the challenge? If so, I recommend you edit the photo out of your post ASAP.
07/09/2006 10:52:07 AM · #17
I see no difference at all between the DPC version and a copy/pasted version displayed in Photoshop. That's the result I expected. The image data is, after all, exactly the same and it's being displayed on the same monitor.
The jaggies can be reduced (not completely eliminated) by resizing in steps, and using "bicubic smoother" as the resampling algorithm.
07/09/2006 10:57:12 AM · #18
I don't see it either, and I checked with firefox, and ie. Seems to be the same.
07/09/2006 11:01:46 AM · #19
I think perhaps boomtap had a really good suggestion that went unnoticed.

Go to your Internet Options in the Tools menu in IE.

Click the Advanced tab and scroll down to the Multimedia section. Make sure that "Enable Automatic Image Resizing" is off. That can easily create the problem you are describing, however, I don't think that would happen on DPC unless you have a tiny monitor. Worth a try anyways.

The one you posted looked OK to me. There were some slight jaggies along the middle, but nothing not to be expected from an image that size and quality.
07/09/2006 11:20:30 AM · #20
I think that the IE image resizing only kicks in when you are viewing images larger than your browser's view window... Anything smaller doesn't need to be resized and will be displayed at 100%, pixel for pixel.

Uhh, you use CS, does that have Bicubic sharpener?

#1, Before you do anything else to the pic, right after converting from RAW, do yourself a favor and hit it with a little bit of Noise Reduction... Ouch.

#2, If you don't have bicubic smoother, try using a multiple step resize from large to small... It looks to me like normal jaggies...

I don't think it's an IE problem... I think it might be in the original. I don't know why PS would be smoothing the jaggies out if you save as and open...

Looks jaggie to me...

Are jaggies a necessary evil of small pics? Nope.. I don't even us the bicubic smoother and I got this

Note that the hair does not appear jaggie pretty much anywhere even though it's pretty close to 1 pixel wide in most spots....

I have a PS action for taking a full size image down to small in quite a few steps...

Use 5% increments and when you get close to around 1024, start setting the steps by hand...

Then, when you run the action on odd crops or smaller images, just go back over the history to make sure that it isn't going from small to big anywhere in your steps and you should be fine... If you want a different final size, just go back a few steps in the history...

For portrait orientation, I duplicated the action and added a rotate on the beginning and end...
07/09/2006 11:26:51 AM · #21
It has to be something with my IE. I tried playing around in the Multimedia "Advanced" options, and it is still 'jagged' in IE, and perfect in every other application, even in Word and other MS applications.

I guess I will live with it. I will try on some other computers. Maybe there is something going on with my Laptop computer.
07/09/2006 11:34:46 AM · #22
Are you using an "optimized" internet service? That would be a "fast dial-up" service. These sometimes compress images with poor results. Since it looks okay locally, but not okay when downloaded, it might be your internet transport that's doing something.
07/09/2006 04:12:01 PM · #23
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

Are you using an "optimized" internet service? That would be a "fast dial-up" service. These sometimes compress images with poor results. Since it looks okay locally, but not okay when downloaded, it might be your internet transport that's doing something.


Nope. I have DSL. If I copy it to the clipboard, and paste the onscreen image into word then it's fine. It is how IE is rendering the pic. This is really strange.
07/09/2006 04:28:45 PM · #24
Originally posted by tonytmtsh:

Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

Are you using an "optimized" internet service? That would be a "fast dial-up" service. These sometimes compress images with poor results. Since it looks okay locally, but not okay when downloaded, it might be your internet transport that's doing something.


Nope. I have DSL. If I copy it to the clipboard, and paste the onscreen image into word then it's fine. It is how IE is rendering the pic. This is really strange.

Have you tried any browsers besides IE such as firefox? It would be interesting to see if you experience the same problem in other browsers.
07/09/2006 04:30:35 PM · #25
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

Are you using an "optimized" internet service? That would be a "fast dial-up" service. These sometimes compress images with poor results. Since it looks okay locally, but not okay when downloaded, it might be your internet transport that's doing something.

If this were the case, the compressed image would still look poorly when copied and pasted into an application such as photoshop.
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