Minimal Editing Discussion - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 80-200mm f/2.8L

01/19/2007 11:39:12 AM · #177

no RAW :-( I don't even take the camera off the raw setting!

bood

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

01/19/2007 11:48:22 AM · #178

Is the sharpen that is allowed the sharpen that's under filters in photoshop above USM with no sliders just the one hit type of thing?
And yes can i do it twice?
thanks in advance.

bood

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

01/19/2007 11:49:58 AM · #179

actually if you do it twice it looks crap!

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/19/2007 12:28:28 PM · #180

Originally posted by bood:

actually if you do it twice it looks crap!

Yes, and yes. ;-)

01/19/2007 12:30:14 PM · #181

Originally posted by bood:

actually if you do it twice it looks crap!

I usually sharpen 2 or 3 times in a normal workflow - not suggesting that it is needed or should be allowed for this ruleset, but I normally do several passes, at different resolutions or for different purposes.

post capture, creative use, and then for output/ after resizing

01/19/2007 12:31:01 PM · #182

Originally posted by kyebosh:

no RAW :-( I don't even take the camera off the raw setting!

You can shoot in RAW+jpeg mode - you might find you can get good enough at setting your camera up properly to not bother using RAW so often ;)

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

01/19/2007 12:36:42 PM · #183

Originally posted by levyj413:

Originally posted by Manic:
For those of you wondering about multiple exposures done in camera, this would be prohibited by the following line of the rules:

[quote=The Rules]You Must ... create your entry from a single capture.

Huh? Then why have multiple captures been allowed, like this one (sorry, Joe - just needed an example):

The rules say this:
"You must ... create your entry from a single capture."

That language is in the minimal, basic, and advanced rules. D200 users out there, and everyone above who's debating whether that feature is helpful or not, did you know it's no longer allowed?

Maybe I'm misreading (again) but it seems like there is some disagreement among SC regarding this rule and we're getting contradictory information. In this thread, Manic stated that multiple exposures in camera were no longer legal in Basic or Advanced. Later, several other SC members confirmed that they ARE still legal. Now he's stating again that they are illegal in Minimal Editing, due to a clause which, as levyj pointed out, exists in the other rulesets and has not prohibited multiple exposures previously. The messages are getting a little confusing. (No offense, Manic.)

Message edited by author 2007-01-19 12:37:38.

Rebecca

Nikon D80

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5- 5.6G ED DX

01/19/2007 12:40:50 PM · #184

Sharpen Edges would be legal, since it's not an adjustable sharpening tool, yes?

thegrandwazoo

Nikon D750

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

01/19/2007 12:53:46 PM · #185

Originally posted by karmabreeze:

Sharpen Edges would be legal, since it's not an adjustable sharpening tool, yes?

I think they addressed that and the answer was no as it would be technically selective editing.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

01/19/2007 12:55:12 PM · #186

Originally posted by karmabreeze:

Sharpen Edges would be legal, since it's not an adjustable sharpening tool, yes?

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by muckpond:
i'm not 100% about sharpen edges, but i would guess that's ok.

Nope. Just plain old Sharpen. That's it. Sharpen edges is pseudo-selective. That's how I read it anyway.

Any discussion about what you can get away with misses the point. You shoot, resize it to 640px, hit sharpen once and submit. That's it. The only real exception is a very basic B&W conversion.

fotomann_forever

01/19/2007 12:56:15 PM · #187

Not seeing this one, but can we use fade after we sharpen?

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

01/19/2007 12:58:44 PM · #188

Originally posted by Shakalaka:

Not seeing this one, but can we use fade after we sharpen?

Originally posted by Manic:

Originally posted by Refwhett:
cool, thanks. Oh, what about the EDIT--> fade thing. I suppose that would not be approved. Right?

Indeed not :o)

fotomann_forever

01/19/2007 01:14:52 PM · #189

mk is the moderator of all that is redundant :-)

The tamer of illiterate fools.

Sigma 24-35mm f/2 DG HSM A

01/19/2007 01:16:33 PM · #190

I'm confused how I can tone map an entry for this challenge. Is there some provision to allow it, even for one exposure ?

fotomann_forever

01/19/2007 01:18:37 PM · #191

Originally posted by Gordon:

I'm confused how I can tone map an entry for this challenge. Is there some provision to allow it, even for one exposure ?

Search B&H for a screw-on tone-mapping filter? :-)

dmadden

Canon EOS-40D

01/19/2007 01:20:25 PM · #192

Should hav a positive effect in forcing people to get it right b4 hitting post processing. I like this.

Azrifel

Fujifilm X100 VI

01/19/2007 01:21:26 PM · #193

Is the SC aware that these rules discriminate against users of the Sigma SD-9 and SD-10 dSLR's? These camera's shoot only RAW, X3F files to be precisely, which have to be run trough a raw converter.
In total there are only 49 owners, but when they don't have a small extra camera they are unable to enter nonetheless.

Only the new SD-14 will have in-camera jpeg.

There might be some issues for digital back and medium format users too, but I am unsure if these record EXIF anyway.

Gaby_G

Canon EF 28-90mm f/4-5.6 II USM (Black)

01/19/2007 01:21:31 PM · #194

And now... the worst of my nightmares has arrived to DPC... No PP!!! so, I think is time to take out my little lumix :S

Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-120 f/4 S

01/19/2007 01:24:30 PM · #195

Originally posted by Azrifel:

and it discriminates against those who only have film cameras too. Dang SC, always trying to stop people entering.

Azrifel

Fujifilm X100 VI

01/19/2007 01:25:50 PM · #196

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by Azrifel:
Is the SC aware that these rules discriminate against users of the Sigma SD-9 and SD-10 dSLR's? These camera's shoot only RAW, X3F files to be precisely, which have to be run trough a raw converter.
In total there are only 49 owners, but when they don't have a small extra camera they are unable to enter nonetheless.

Only the new SD-14 will have in-camera jpeg.

There might be some issues for digital back and medium format users too, but I am unsure if these record EXIF anyway.

and it discriminates against those who only have film cameras too. Dang SC, always trying to stop people entering.

DPC has never been for film. It is a valid argument an you know it.

bassbone

Nikon Z8

01/19/2007 01:26:10 PM · #197

Originally posted by Shakalaka:

Search B&H for a screw-on tone-mapping filter? :-)

Mine is in the mail. Hopefully it get's here in time to use for this challenge ;-)

Message edited by author 2007-01-19 13:26:59.

Gaby_G

Canon EF 28-90mm f/4-5.6 II USM (Black)

01/19/2007 01:27:50 PM · #198

MMmm just a doubt, we are allowed to enter both, the minimal editing and the expert editing challenges that are currently open right? (I don`t wanna shoot for both and then have to choose a picture)

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

01/19/2007 01:29:02 PM · #199

Originally posted by Gaby_G:

MMmm just a doubt, we are allowed to enter both, the minimal editing and the expert editing challenges that are currently open right? (I don`t wanna shoot for both and then have to choose a picture)

Yup :-)

R.