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10/26/2002 12:42:16 AM · #26 |
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10/26/2002 12:50:40 AM · #27 |
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10/26/2002 07:58:46 AM · #28 |
Heck you guys, If I'd have known that, I'd have entered the double-left-hand buck toothed girls-eyelashes potato head picture instead of the one I did enter, and STILL did better than I'm doing now. That was just a total silly one. The one thing that it did add was some nice bright colors. Those images are totally unedited (aside from being resized). Actually, the first one isn't even the best picture of those 2 figures.
The thing I like about the first one is that they're sort of just floating in space. The second one was a purpose picture. I don't appreciate anyone badmouthing the Beatles. The choice of the song on the page wasn't just random. It was calculated. The third one was inspired by dinner, when I looked outside and saw the silly potato-head sitting on the table outside the window. My wife took a quick break and came back to find the big figure standing with ol' spud. She was laughing pretty hard holding the light. She still did a great job. I messed up (if this informal poll is any indication). I reckon there's always next challenge.
Inspzil
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10/26/2002 08:02:34 AM · #29 |
5,8,4
Dont really care for toys and animation characters (or potato heads!) in pictures. |
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10/26/2002 08:09:50 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by aelith:
Inspzil, I really like the first one except that it has too much space and is centered. Is your original resolution high enough that you could do a vertical crop with the figures off center to the right? Do you have any version of photoshop? It would be real easy to do a constrained ratio crop that could then be resized to 427 x 680.
This image is totally unedited aside from resizing. The original picture is plenty big enough to crop (2048x1536). And I do have Photoshop. I had done a little editing on it, so I do have some versions of it cropped and stuff (unfortunately none on this computer, but at home). I just picked one of probably 35 or 40 images with the lighting on the best side (intensities varied substantially). This one was a little on the dark side. This was to show my ideas more than actual challenge ready material. I know that if you folks pursue it, and see the one I did submit, you'll all feel like kicking me.
The second pic, I don't think I would do much with that. I might have turned the contrast up a bit, but there isn't much cropping to do and no color to mess with. It actually turned out better than I expected.
Thanks for the suggestions aelith. You'll be pleased to know (maybe) that the crops I did do were off center, and to the right. Later.
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10/26/2002 08:56:57 AM · #31 |
That's ok then. just trying to help.
I hear you totally on the Beatles picture. The orcrastrated versions of that and Norwigien Wood just send me soaring.
Trouble is I'm from that generation so all my memories and emotions are keyed to those songs. They will always be the greatest. |
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10/26/2002 09:08:14 AM · #32 |
| Ah, isn't it good norwegian wood... |
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10/26/2002 09:36:19 AM · #33 |
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10/26/2002 11:17:08 AM · #34 |
inspzil
on the first one, crop just to the right of the figures, and it works well as a neg space photo, imho.
in the second one, the light washes out the book too much, I'd like to see the writing a bit more. otherwise good.
;)
Karen
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10/26/2002 01:24:18 PM · #35 |
I don't see how you get a 3 out of the last one. It is in focus, not grainy, the light is good. What is it? Is it that you are not interested in it? What? If that is the case then I think you are scoring way to low.
Originally posted by lhall:
And even more different..
5,7,3
linda
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10/26/2002 07:49:08 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by Sonifo:
I don't see how you get a 3 out of the last one. It is in focus, not grainy, the light is good. What is it? Is it that you are not interested in it? What? If that is the case then I think you are scoring way to low.
Originally posted by lhall:
[i]And even more different..
5,7,3
linda
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I agree. I will tell you why I gave the second one a 6;
The Beatles don't do anything on me. They made some great music, but I am more a Surf, Rolling Stones, Them kinda guy. The relation between the two books is something I don't understand, it is a lack of understanding from my side.
There are to many jpeg compresion artifacts in this shot. But it is only a 35k sample, so that could be better.
I feel it is a bit overexposed. The two bits most exposed to the light source are blown out.
The framing is poor. Instead of keeping a black strip above, frame it a bit lower to include the laying book fully, or dowsample a bit more to get a better crop.
Colorwise it is a bit dull. In this case it might add to the shot, but overall I personally don't like the lack of color.
You might recognise one remark from the comments. :-) |
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10/26/2002 07:49:43 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by Natasha:
5,8,4
Dont really care for toys and animation characters (or potato heads!) in pictures.
This is it exactly. I simply don't care for plastic toys, aliens,etc. or "knick knacks" in photos. I'll give it points if it meets the challenge, has good lighting,etc., but the impact (emotional, etc.) a photo has on me is the biggest thing. Photos like that have little or no impact on me at all. I guess this is why scores vary so greatly - we ARE all so different!!
I do really like the Beatles music shot a lot though.
linda
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10/26/2002 10:45:24 PM · #38 |
I just don't understand why so low. 3 points for meeting the challenge. Wow! Your a tough judge. I think it should be higher. I don't care for the shot either, but it is almost perfect and that is what counts the most for me. I think of a 3 as very poor, grainy, framing is way bad, dark, to bright and so on. This is the reason
why I think there should be two ways of voting. one for technical and the other for interest.
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10/26/2002 10:55:02 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by Sonifo:
I just don't understand why so low. 3 points for meeting the challenge. Wow! Your a tough judge. I think it should be higher. I don't care for the shot either, but it is almost perfect and that is what counts the most for me. I think of a 3 as very poor, grainy, framing is way bad, dark, to bright and so on. This is the reason
why I think there should be two ways of voting. one for technical and the other for interest.
I don't necessarily think that I am a "tough judge", it is simply that the photo in question does absolutely nothing for me - you said that "it is almost perfect and that is what counts the most" for you. What counts the most for me is impact. It's that initial impression and gut reaction. I do take the time to look at the submissions and take into account technical aspects, etc., but that will not usually sway me much from my initial feeling.
linda
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10/26/2002 11:12:59 PM · #40 |
That is why voting is so interesting here. And one of the reasons i like it. It allows us to vary, and doesn't limit us one way or the other. Also, neither lhall's "way" or Sonifo's "way" is more right than the other. As long as each votes consistently, I believe it is fair across the board.
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10/26/2002 11:13:47 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by marksimms:
[i]OK, read this...
'Use a single, artificial light source to dramatically light the subject of your choice. Your photograph must be taken this week (10/14-10/20). Good luck!'
OK, that tells me to pick an object, pace a light in its near vicinity, make it look dramatic, take a picture...Then someone says this..
"Looks very staged, but attempts to pass as a real phenomenon. This seems like a contradiction to me, so it doesn't play well as well as it would if it were an actual captured moment".
I give up, I really do.. Of course it was staged, it was by no means supposed to be a natural moment, rarely in life do torches (flashlights to you, my american friends) fall behind these kinds of objects and cast light THIS dramatic.. If the challenge was called "Candid Lightsource", then they would have a point.. Otherwise I am slightly miffed.. And the bugger marked me down for it...
I'm the bugger. Sorry if the comment offended you. I'm a hard grader for everyone, including my own work, so it all evens out. :^)
My point was better stated by Gordon already. I'm sorry but I still think I have a point. I may have stated it too bluntly, if so I apologize. I think an artificially staged shot is just fine, but to me it loses something if it tries to pass for something real and falls short. For example (I'm not saying your photo is this contrived...), a stuffed animal in a jungle might look fantastic in terms of composition, but it will never work if it looks like a stuffed animal in a jungle with fantasic composition. |
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10/26/2002 11:21:18 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by karmat:
That is why voting is so interesting here. And one of the reasons i like it. It allows us to vary, and doesn't limit us one way or the other. Also, neither lhall's "way" or Sonifo's "way" is more right than the other. As long as each votes consistently, I believe it is fair across the board.
I agree completely. Everyone is right!! That is what makes the rating of photos here so great. You really get a feel for how your submission appeals to a wide variety of people, and in the process, hopefully - you learn!
linda
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10/26/2002 11:29:30 PM · #43 |
Linda if the theme was culture clash or east vers west how would you feel about the picture then.
My main problem with the picture is that the back gound isn't completely dark. Meanwhile I half expect them to show up in the next Toy Story movie. |
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10/26/2002 11:35:06 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by aelith:
Linda if the theme was culture clash or east vers west how would you feel about the picture then.
My main problem with the picture is that the back gound isn't completely dark. Meanwhile I half expect them to show up in the next Toy Story movie.
Have to admit if it was an east v. west challenge thing, I would at least get a laugh out of it- it would be a unique interpretation!
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10/27/2002 12:50:37 AM · #45 |
It is either your monitor or mine. I don't think the background is to light. Ya I see some reflection underneath the lady, but that is it. Everything else is black. Hmmm....
Originally posted by aelith:
Linda if the theme was culture clash or east vers west how would you feel about the picture then.
My main problem with the picture is that the back gound isn't completely dark. Meanwhile I half expect them to show up in the next Toy Story movie.
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10/27/2002 12:52:57 AM · #46 |
You are absolutly correct. I just needed to see how she scores. And now you know how I score. It is ok to be different. :)
Originally posted by karmat:
That is why voting is so interesting here. And one of the reasons i like it. It allows us to vary, and doesn't limit us one way or the other. Also, neither lhall's "way" or Sonifo's "way" is more right than the other. As long as each votes consistently, I believe it is fair across the board.
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10/27/2002 12:53:58 AM · #47 |
Okay, some things to clear up -
About the Beatles book pic -
Karen - There are no more words to read. Each instrument played was scored, thus "The Complete Works." What you see is what you get. I did adjust the contrast up just a pinch.
Azrifel - There is only one book. The thing standing behind the book is just a cover for it. It looks exactly like the cover of the book.
The Potatohead picture -
Sonifo - I appreciate you defending this picture, it's very noble. This picture was taken just to be an outtake. There is no serious intent behind it, I took it just for a few laughs.
lhall & aelith - Funny you should mention East vs. West. I live in the states, and my mother is from Japan. Ironic, eh? LOL!!
Thanks everyone for putting your comments here. Nice to actually have a thread once in awhile that doesn't get downright nasty!! :)
-Inspzil
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10/27/2002 07:58:41 AM · #48 |
| hey legal beagles! check out aldo monteforte's post last night on photosig |
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10/27/2002 08:35:49 AM · #49 |
discomushroom? LOL :)
Very original.. there must be a story to go along with that one..
Anyway.. photosig seems to be down.
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