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07/09/2003 09:55:46 AM · #76 |
Originally posted by jochen:
Thanks for the links, Terry. I will perhaps use these sites later when my PS skills get even better.
But I must say; on those sites people expect me to edit pics. So for my "test", they're not useful. I wanted to check wether my altered pic would "survive" between unedited pics, remember? |
This site is not your guinea pig.
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
But given that this is the culture of the site it seems unwise to thumb your nose at it in the way that you did.
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Originally posted by jochen:
I am unaware of this site's "culture" |
You have been a user of this site since Feb. 2002. Therefore, you should know the culture, the rules and the consequences. |
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07/09/2003 09:56:49 AM · #77 |
Your 'reason' is unimportant. The fact is you did it. It's a yes or no question. You did it, or you didn't. And you did.
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07/09/2003 09:58:27 AM · #78 |
Originally posted by Morgan:
So, you are now agreeing that you did in fact cheat in the "open challenge". This is a good first step. LOL |
???
I said I cheated in the very first post in this thread... I never disagreed on that; I DID cheat, alas not to improve my score, but another reason.
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07/09/2003 09:59:14 AM · #79 |
Originally posted by jochen:
I did not start this "honesty"-thing. But I felt compelled to reply when reaction became IMHO too fierce (given the reason for my breaking the rules). |
Ok...I admit....I cheated is the title you choose for this thread. If you didn't think you were wrong in doing this, they why choose the word admit? You admitted to breaking the rules. Rules are there for a reason, whatever they may be. By breaking them, you basically showed how much you value this site and it's users, which is what most people seem to be angry about. |
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07/09/2003 10:02:26 AM · #80 |
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
My real question is this if you were going to cheat and do some post editing that wasn't allowable why didn't you go the whole way and remove those distracing sunspots and the glare created by them? If you are going to cheat you might as well do it the whole way. |
You think it is distracting, but others think it's a nice effect. I've posted this pic before on another site (unaltered at that time); more people liked the effect. Only a few disliked it. So I kept it...
By the way: one or more of the "auto-" actions in PS diminish the flare effect by at least 70%. I could surely have done this without ANYONE noticing. That would not have been a proof of my skills. I actually wonder how many people use "auto-contrast", "auto-levels", etc... you would be surprised ...or is this allowed here?
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07/09/2003 10:02:45 AM · #81 |
Originally posted by Konador:
I think the sun spots and glare/lens flare or whatever looks pretty cool :P |
Thanks! :-) |
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07/09/2003 10:05:28 AM · #82 |
Originally posted by jimmyn4:
After trying to get through all of the posts on this one all I wanted to add was. If your trying to work on your spot editing skills and you obviously participate in the threads here. Wouldn't it have been easier to not submit a photo to the challenge and create a thread asking people what there opinions of your spot editing were. Personally I didn't vote on your photo on the challenge and I looked at it. It really isn't that good of a spot editing job and I may have requested a DQ. I think the person who commented on how you got this without editing should have put in a DQ. This is a lesson to all voters. If the photo brings up a question in your mind about legitimacy and you comment on its legitimacy you should request a DQ too. |
If I would post the pic, and would ask "has it been altered and where?"... then people would look at my pic with a totally different perspective (ic. not the "normal" way of looking at my pic)...
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07/09/2003 10:05:38 AM · #83 |
Originally posted by jochen:
I actually wonder how many people use "auto-contrast", "auto-levels", etc... you would be surprised ...or is this allowed here? |
Actually, I'm not gonna waste my breath/typing fingers replying to this thread anymore. I think the point's been made already
Message edited by author 2003-07-09 10:07:40. |
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07/09/2003 10:05:48 AM · #84 |
You are getting way too much attention on this.
Bottom line.. Breaking the rules is unacceptable.. I have posted this many times in this thread. Continuing to persue it here is ineffective, i.e. you will not change our minds.
Anyone else cheating should reexamine their goals here. |
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07/09/2003 10:07:01 AM · #85 |
Originally posted by alansfreed:
Originally posted by jochen:
I am soooo dissapointed in this site right now. |
No offense, but Woop-de-doo. Do you really think it took a lot of special skill to move a needle? Virtually anyone here has the talent to cheat in a very convincing manner. You have really pushed some wrong buttons here... |
You may have those skills. but I can assure you a lot of people - including me a while ago - have not...
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07/09/2003 10:07:18 AM · #86 |
Originally posted by jochen:
You think it is distracting, but others think it's a nice effect. I've posted this pic before on another site (unaltered at that time); more people liked the effect. |
So you're also saying this pic was taken before the challenge dates?
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07/09/2003 10:08:05 AM · #87 |
Originally posted by jochen:
I actually wonder how many people use "auto-contrast", "auto-levels", etc... you would be surprised ...or is this allowed here? |
Maybe you should refer to the rules occassionally and actually read them so you know, this is a direct quote from the rules
"Post-shot Adjustments may be made to your image in a photo editing program, so long as the modification is applied to the whole image. This includes levels, b&w conversion, hue/saturation, sizing/rotating, curves and cropping (or their non-Photoshop equivalents)." |
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07/09/2003 10:09:03 AM · #88 |
I guess I'm still confused.
You cheated.
You know you cheated.
You know you intentionally tried to decieve everyone who voted on your picture in good faith.
Then, later on you come out and tell everyone - what sort of reaction did you expect ? People to be impressed by your skills ? To be happy to find out that you lied to them ? |
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07/09/2003 10:09:07 AM · #89 |
Originally posted by KarenB:
You have been a user of this site since Feb. 2002. Therefore, you should know the culture, the rules and the consequences. |
Therefor, therefor... :-( Who are you to judge on wether or not I should know this site's "culture"? Did you check how many times I have participated here since then?
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07/09/2003 10:09:26 AM · #90 |
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
Maybe you should refer to the rules occassionally and actually read them so you know, this is a direct quote from the rules
"Post-shot Adjustments may be made to your image in a photo editing program, so long as the modification is applied to the whole image. This includes levels, b&w conversion, hue/saturation, sizing/rotating, curves and cropping (or their non-Photoshop equivalents)." |
Stole my thunder:)
Message edited by author 2003-07-09 10:09:56.
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07/09/2003 10:10:48 AM · #91 |
Originally posted by KarenB:
You are getting way too much attention on this.
Bottom line.. Breaking the rules is unacceptable.. I have posted this many times in this thread. Continuing to persue it here is ineffective, i.e. you will not change our minds.
Anyone else cheating should reexamine their goals here. |
Change your minds on what? I'm not trying to change anyone's mind!
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07/09/2003 10:11:02 AM · #92 |
Originally posted by jochen:
Originally posted by KarenB:
You have been a user of this site since Feb. 2002. Therefore, you should know the culture, the rules and the consequences. |
Therefor, therefor... :-( Who are you to judge on wether or not I should know this site's "culture"? Did you check how many times I have participated here since then? |
You are only trying to provoke, and THEREFORE digging your hole deeper.
We are DONE here. |
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07/09/2003 10:11:09 AM · #93 |
Originally posted by jimmyn4:
Stole my thunder:) |
I'm sorry I guess I just copy and pasted faster than you. |
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07/09/2003 10:11:36 AM · #94 |
I think we all need to remember that personal attacks are not suppose to occur in the forum posts. Not even against childish cheaters with no respect for themselves or others that believe themselves above the rules and whine that people call them dishonest when they admit to having cheated...
Just something to think about :)
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07/09/2003 10:12:42 AM · #95 |
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Originally posted by jochen:
You think it is distracting, but others think it's a nice effect. I've posted this pic before on another site (unaltered at that time); more people liked the effect. |
So you're also saying this pic was taken before the challenge dates? |
Oh ow!
Yes I broke that rule too.
This pic was chosen as...
-it was good for the "speed" contest
-it was convenient for trying out my PS skills
Sue me! |
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07/09/2003 10:14:35 AM · #96 |
Originally posted by jochen:
Oh ow!
Yes I broke that rule too.
This pic was chosen as...
-it was good for the "speed" contest
-it was convenient for trying out my PS skills
Sue me! |
Did you even take the photo yourself, or did you break that rule too? |
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07/09/2003 10:14:35 AM · #97 |
I still want to know why you didn't just create a thread and ask people for their opinion on your spot editing skills.
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07/09/2003 10:15:13 AM · #98 |
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07/09/2003 10:17:25 AM · #99 |
Originally posted by jimmyn4:
I still want to know why you didn't just create a thread and ask people for their opinion on your spot editing skills. |
I think JOCHEN was trying to invoke a conversation, and provoke response, and he succeeded in both accounts.
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07/09/2003 10:18:52 AM · #100 |
Originally posted by mci:
He's a witch!
Burn him! |
ROTFLMAO!!! I can already picture this angry, camera toting mob, screaming for a burning. |
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