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07/14/2003 10:10:59 AM · #1 |
I almost always receive comments about borders, and I've seen it on other people's pictures too. Some love it, some hate it. Borders are a personal taste thing and really have nothing to do with scoring pictures in my opinion. It's like adding a mat over a picture, which can be removed since it's not really intergrated into the image.
How many of you actually add or deduct points based on the border a photographer adds or doesn't add? I'm curious to know what people think. At art shows pictures are always matted and/or framed. For most people they base their purchase on the picture not the mat.
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07/14/2003 10:15:38 AM · #2 |
I take off points if the border is bad, but I don't add points if hte border is good. I judge the whole image as it is presented to me. If you don't like people complaining about them I suggest not using them. When voting, we can't remove the border like we would remove a mat (well we could crop every single photo in photoshop but who is gonna do that?).
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07/14/2003 10:19:05 AM · #3 |
I think borders in picts entered to a challenges are part of the final product. If the border is truly awful (IMO), I probably go down a bit. If a border is really good (again IMO), my score is probably going up. But I don't think I'm usually thinking, "Hey, this is a bad border, I'm going to deduct points" (or the other way around). In other words, I don't conciously deduct or add points for borders, but I do take them into account.
~Ursula
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07/14/2003 10:19:36 AM · #4 |
Personally, I feel that a border becomes part of the picture if you choose to add one, so I do take it into account with the rest of the picture in my scoring (good or bad).
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07/14/2003 10:27:14 AM · #5 |
| I take the border into account as part of the presented image.. Rarely will a border add points as they rarely boost the quality of an image.. Often they can deduct points as it's easy to do them badly.. |
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07/14/2003 10:32:47 AM · #6 |
I'm not saying I "don't like people complaining about them." Naturally I understand that I have a choice to add a border or not. I also didn't mean that a border could be removed for judging, any more than we'd remove a mat, at an art show, to study a picture.
I simply would like to see people's opinions, since I am interested in how other folks feel about it, and value the views of others.
If this was a rant I would have posted in that section. :-)
Edited to add this smile to be clearly show my attitude...lol :-)
Message edited by author 2003-07-14 10:34:58.
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07/14/2003 10:33:54 AM · #7 |
If a border is on the outside of a picture, it's like a mat. If it's one of those lay over the top ones, it better look really good on that picture or else. I've taken off for bad borders. I've added pts for really good ones - far more common for me is taking off for horrid ugly borders.
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07/14/2003 10:40:10 AM · #8 |
I think a good border can result in me giving a better score sometimes... usually by about a point. More often than not though, I will deduct points for a bad border depending on how much it adversely affects my ability to enjoy the picture in question. My list of no-nos...
Huge, chunky borders.
Coloured borders.
Anything other than a plain colour, eg. semi-transparent, shaped edges, etc.
Those borders which appear inside the edge of the picture, ie the photo continues past the border.
It is possible for one of these borders to work occasionally, but it has to have an artistic reason for being there. There are too many people who are putting on borders just for the hell of it. When you use a border, ask yourself:
Does it need one at all?
Is it subtle? If it isn't, is there a good reason for this?
Does it add to your picture? Why does your picture need something added to it?
Remember that a 1-pixel black border is added automatically when you upload... this is added to whatever border you create.
Pretend that you've paid lots of money for a nice print and you want to buy a frame that will show it off without drawing too much attention to itself. |
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07/14/2003 11:18:44 AM · #9 |
Here's an example of a border that probably fetched me a lower score:
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5.587
Link: //www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=20268
Had I not used a border, or used a different one, I bet I would have gotten at least a half a point higher. What do you all think?
Message edited by author 2003-07-14 11:19:26.
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07/14/2003 11:20:45 AM · #10 |
| Agreed! The font at the top should be matched with the font at the bottom as well IMO. I really don't like the font at the top! |
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07/14/2003 11:38:45 AM · #11 |
Steve, I agree, too. The blue of the border does not match anything in the photo, and it overpowers the rest of the photo, which, btw, is great :) Also agree with Bobster that the fonts should match and the bottom one is better.
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07/14/2003 11:46:01 AM · #12 |
The border definetly clashes with the image. The composition and color, and exposure are wonderful. I wouldn't have deducted for the border but would have probably commented on it.
Aside from that, I also think the fonts should match each other.
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