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 10/28/2008 12:48:16 PM · #1
A couple days ago i found an amazing deal on a 5d a friend of mine is selling. I know with the image quality the 5d has, it is way helpful to have good glass on it. BUT, as of now, i dont have the money for the 17-40 L lens that i want yet, and all i have for now until i get that money is a canon 28-105 f4-5.6, and an 18-55 kit lens. Will is see a BIG difference in image quality and it is that bad to use these cheap lens on such a great camera?
 10/28/2008 12:52:03 PM · #2
If its that amazing of a deal, and real, I say go for it. It better really be a good friend if its that good of a deal though, be careful of getting hosed. Nothing beats good glass, and that is normally the route I would reccomend, but:

A- the 5d is a freakin solid camera

B- A good deal is a good deal, and if its real, sometimes its stupid to pass up.
 10/28/2008 12:55:05 PM · #3
IMO, you can get good results from those lenses. It's all relative to what you expect. Expensive lenses would certainly give better results. It's one of those "is it the camera or the photographer?" questions.
 10/28/2008 12:55:13 PM · #4
The 5D is a full frame camera and the 18-55 kit is a EF-S lenses, so that will not work
 10/28/2008 12:55:24 PM · #5
yeah your right..but ive known him for a while and this deal i couldnt pass up..i would hopefull have the money for the new lens by christmas, or a little after
 10/28/2008 12:58:31 PM · #6
wait, so i cannot use any EF lens with a full frame?
 10/28/2008 12:59:00 PM · #7
i meant EF-S**
 10/28/2008 01:01:33 PM · #8
Correct, EF-S lenses are for Rebels, 10D.....50D the "cropped" sensor family.
 10/28/2008 01:02:07 PM · #9
no EF-s lens on the 5d

all the EF ones will work.


10/28/2008 01:03:14 PM · #10
Originally posted by surfographer02:
i meant EF-S**


That's right; EF-S lenses are optimized for the smaller APS-C sensor, and they are machined so the cannot be used on the FF cameras. They don't throw a large enough image circle to cover FF, and in some cases they project too far into the "box" on the camera body for the mirror of the FF camera to clear them.

R.
 10/28/2008 01:04:48 PM · #11
Originally posted by vxpra:
Correct, EF-S lenses are for Rebels, 10D.....50D the "cropped" sensor family.


It's worth noting they won't work on the 10D either, as that camera body predates the introduction of the EF-S standard.

R.
 10/28/2008 01:09:05 PM · #12
oohh well that definitly helps..well, then i guess in the meantime, i willl just buy a 50mm prime to use until i get the 17-40
 10/28/2008 01:10:10 PM · #13
Originally posted by surfographer02:
oohh well that definitly helps..well, then i guess in the meantime, i willl just buy a 50mm prime to use until i get the 17-40

I was just going to suggest the 50 mm prime. Now go get your full frame goodness. :)
 10/28/2008 01:13:30 PM · #14
Originally posted by surfographer02:
oohh well that definitly helps..well, then i guess in the meantime, i willl just buy a 50mm prime to use until i get the 17-40


Your 28-105mm will work on the 5D...

R.
 10/28/2008 01:15:47 PM · #15
I might suggest holding off on buying that 17-40 until you try the full frame. After getting the 5D I actually sold my 16-35 because on the 5D it was way too wide and had too much distortion. I actually get some distortion at 24 on the 5D with my 24-70. You will be surprised just how wide FF is if you have never shot film.

Matt
 10/28/2008 01:25:10 PM · #16
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by surfographer02:
oohh well that definitly helps..well, then i guess in the meantime, i willl just buy a 50mm prime to use until i get the 17-40


Your 28-105mm will work on the 5D...

R.


I think getting hold of the 5D body is more important right now. You can always buy better glass with time, no???

Also, I know 28-105 is a good lens (for its price). I have the f3.5-4.5 one. Look at its page here.. and count the ribbons in the first row.. also look at the image quality... and notice who all are using it:-)

I have started to believe that until the photog reaches his/her skill limits, getting a better lens isnt going to help too much. An L-series may help more if I know how to pair up good basic parameters first. After all a better glass may not set the scene for you or adjust the lighting etc. Just my 2 cents.

Message edited by author 2008-10-28 13:50:33.
 10/28/2008 01:43:46 PM · #17
hmmm that true as well, i really havent seen how wide the full frame could get, especially if i had the 17-40..i mean dont get me wrong, the 24-105 L does sound amazing, just that would take me twice as long to save up for haha im sure itll be worth the wait thou
 10/28/2008 01:46:38 PM · #18
You can never be too wide. ;o)

I've used the 17-40 on a film body. With the right composition it's awesome.



However, for starters, your 28-105 should do you just fine as has already been mentioned.
 10/28/2008 02:13:45 PM · #19
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by vxpra:
Correct, EF-S lenses are for Rebels, 10D.....50D the "cropped" sensor family.


It's worth noting they won't work on the 10D either, as that camera body predates the introduction of the EF-S standard.

R.


I did not know that. Thanks Bear.
 10/28/2008 02:42:57 PM · #20
The 18-55 on a cropped body has the same FOV as a 28.8-88mm lens on a 5D.

Consider a 24-70 f/2.8 or the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 as your next lens, or even the 24-105 f/4
 10/28/2008 03:28:00 PM · #21
I think the one thing this thread points out is that if you have in the back of your mind acquiring a full frame camera, you should not spend excessive money on small sensor lenses.
 11/02/2008 01:04:52 AM · #22
Get the 5D. There really isn't much more to say than that. My first DSLR was an original Digital Rebel (not the XT). I upgraded to the 20D and the difference was just amazing. Then I upgraded to the 5D and was completely blown away. Giving up the 20D for the 5D was the best decision I made in regards to cameras. Get the 5D and pick up the lens' for it later.

And yes... you will be quite amazed at how different a full frame camera is. I was really worried when I lost the ability to use the 18-55mm lens because I shoot in tight spaces a lot and I was afraid I wouldn't be able to zoom out far enough. With my 28-135mm I have absolutely no problem in tight spaces.
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