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02/21/2012 09:53:55 AM · #1

It never ceases to amaze me how murders can be found "not guilty" due to placing the blame elsewhere.

I am a HUGE "Dexter" fan. By far, my favorite show of all time. Well, the other day, my husband and I were watching television, and there was this 17 year old kid who killed his brother because he "associated" himself with Dexter. He said he felt like he WAS Dexter. Really? Come on. Take responsibility for the fact that you KILLED someone, rather than saying a movie, or television show, or book, or the internet MADE you do it.

Then, they take television shows off the air, because of this stupidity. If that's going to be the case... maybe they should also take the NEWS off the air. Every time you turn around, there's a murder, or robbery, or rape... so we can't show that either.

ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!!!

Just had to throw that out there.

Feeling much better now. lol

PS, this particular boy plead guilty and received life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Message edited by author 2012-02-21 09:54:53.

Mike

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02/21/2012 10:26:08 AM · #2

well, its up to the juries to stop falling for the excuses.

HarveyG

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02/21/2012 10:53:07 AM · #3

Juries...easily swayed by one loud persuasive moderator. One Judge One decision. Cheaper and faster too.

Strikeslip

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02/21/2012 11:00:46 AM · #4

I suppose that in "the old days before electricity" people would blame the supernatural instead of TV or movies.

02/21/2012 01:07:01 PM · #5

The voices in my head told me to do it....

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02/21/2012 01:50:03 PM · #6

Don't get me wrong, I do understand that people have "problems"... some people may have a mental disorder, but still, why try and place the blame somewhere else? ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY people!

If a person has a mental disorder, and watches a show like Dexter, or a horror movie, or reads books about "Ted Bundy", etc., this COULD cause them to create a fictitious relation to the person committing the crimes, i.e., exactly what this kid did, related himself to Dexter. However, there still has to be responsibility here.

It just unnerves me when I see things like this going on.

GeneralE

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02/21/2012 01:55:47 PM · #7

Isn't "pleading guilty" accepting responsibility?

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02/21/2012 01:59:13 PM · #8

Technically speaking, yes. However, he plead guilty to avoid death.

So in that case, it was a simple way to save his life (whatever he makes of it behind prison bars).

Message edited by author 2012-02-21 14:01:23.

NikonJeb

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02/21/2012 03:24:04 PM · #9

I love it when someone who opened fire in a crowded place and kills seventeen people is determined to be insane.

Duh.....

But how does that absolve him from his accountability?

posthumous

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02/21/2012 04:25:53 PM · #10

so, you would like and respect and understand a murderer, as long as he didn't blame it on a TV show?

02/21/2012 04:30:02 PM · #11

Originally posted by posthumous:

so, you would like and respect and understand a murderer, as long as he didn't blame it on a TV show?

Never said that. There are different circumstances regarding murder...
Just don't place the blame everywhere but where it should be.... ON THEMSELVES

posthumous

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02/21/2012 04:58:36 PM · #12

so it surprises you that a murderer would have a character defect?

posthumous

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02/21/2012 04:59:14 PM · #13

We can't even get presidential candidates to put the blame on themselves. But you want murderers to do it.

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02/21/2012 05:38:14 PM · #14

Of course. I want ALL people to take accountability for their actions. Does it surprise me there are so many people who don't (not only murders... but the general public)... No, of course not. But what I am tired of is seeing people get a "slap on the wrist" because they are too "fill in the blank" to fess up and take responsibility.

As for president's.... they are murders in a different way... and that's a whole different can of worms

escapetooz

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02/21/2012 06:31:08 PM · #15

When you already have mental problems, it doesn't take much to push you over the edge. There was always hysteria over this or that corrupting the minds of the youth. Books, music, now TV and video games. The take home is that if you are pushed over the edge by a form of entertainment that tons of other people enjoy, you were already pretty damn close to begin with.

That being said, I personally can't stand the show Dexter. I watched one episode because everyone was ranting and raving and decided never to watch another one again. Why do I want to watch a show that tries to make me empathize with a murdering sociopath? Pass.

02/21/2012 07:18:02 PM · #16

Well... I do have a morbid sense of what entertainment is. I have been a horror fan since I was a young child, watching A Nightmare On Elm Street at the age of 4. But that's me... I like Dexter... but we all have our preferences

02/21/2012 08:37:28 PM · #17

Our laws are broken... In a way I think it should be an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth...However in some cases that is not appropriate. For instance, a person breaks into a house and the owner shoots and kills him...or shoots and wounds him...that guy was protecting his homestead and his family and should be let off...with nothing more than a misdormeaner. Someone that kills someone in cold blood....DEATH automatic. This includes meditated murder...mass murder...etc.

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02/22/2012 09:40:12 AM · #18

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

I agree. I also can understand when some people kill... a man rapes and kills a 4 year old little girl, the dad tracks him down and kills him...
Is it the "right" thing to do? Probably not, is it justice? Guess it depends on who you ask. But should the father serve a life sentence for his crime of passion/getting justice for his daughter? No... he shouldn't.

Message edited by author 2012-02-22 09:40:35.

Strikeslip

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02/22/2012 04:35:37 PM · #19

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

...a person breaks into a house and the owner shoots and kills him......

In Canada, if a homeowner even punches a burglar, the homeowner is arrested. I'm considering going into the business.

02/22/2012 05:36:03 PM · #20

Yeah breaking into my house would prob be a bad idea

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02/22/2012 06:00:08 PM · #21

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

Yeah breaking into my house would prob be a bad idea

Ditto

RayEthier

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02/22/2012 06:04:09 PM · #22

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

Yeah breaking into my house would prob be a bad idea

You got enough room in your house to swing that big gun around?

Ray