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10/08/2004 11:41:37 AM · #1 |
OK...60 some-odd comments can't be wrong I guess, but I had no idea that a phone pole would wreak havok on my entry's reception by the voting public like it did...nor was I aware of how many would read into it's presence either heavenly or hellish connotations...but that's just me. It's a phone pole. Part of rural life in America. It never crossed my mind it was a problem, because it's such a fixture around these parts.
Anyway... here are a couple of other versions I considered. Any better, worse, indifferent?? Thanks for the comments and the votes. I appreciate it!
as submitted:
outtake 1:
outtake 2:
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10/08/2004 11:49:23 AM · #2 |
I was one of those phone-pole-freak people hehehe. I really like the outtakes. Outtake one is too cropped, I think, but outtake two is perfection. I'm not entirely sure whether I prefer the walking towards or walking away...prolly the walking away...but the second outtake is, imo, the bestest of the best.
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10/08/2004 11:52:09 AM · #3 |
| Hi Laurie, I gave your original a 7. It's a great capture and one to frame. If you ever reshoot, I love the path on the third shot. The way it leads you out of the frame is great. But...I'd like to see them walking away. Good job and congratulations! |
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10/08/2004 11:53:25 AM · #4 |
| Maybe it will do well in the communications challenge :-). Seriously, I was somewhat mystified by the comments on the poles. I was reviewing how my top picks did last night (I knew this was yours!) and found it odd that people obssessed about the poles. The poles weren't that glaring, and as you said, they're part of the rural landscape. Maybe perhaps they found a 'modern' object out of place in such a very nostalgic piece. |
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10/08/2004 11:57:57 AM · #5 |
I like the original better than the outtakes.
I will also stand behind my comments during the challenge:
"Nice story portrayed here. (In Good Hands jumps to mind).
2 boys on a lazy afternoon walk in the country with their Dad. Country, rustic feel.
Just enough touch of civilization with the power lines & pole, yet not distracting."
Now get that shot in print and on your wall where it belongs!
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10/08/2004 12:02:49 PM · #6 |
I honestly am shocked people would notice/complain that much about the telephone pole. Ya know, I don't think I would've even noticed...besides..you're capturing a moment, that's apart of the moment right?
I guess if you have to re-shoot you could recompose to not include the telephone pole. But whatever, I don't see the big deal. |
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10/08/2004 12:02:51 PM · #7 |
It was a great shot just how it was laurie. Had a great warmth and feeling. The one you entered was better than your outtakes in my oppinion.
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10/08/2004 12:13:52 PM · #8 |
Laurie,
I thought the shot as you submitted it is perfect, it's simply a dad walking with his sons - maybe as I'm a dad with 2 sons this pic connected with me at a deeper level.
It's just perfect, as for the telegraph pole - I didn't actually notice it, now it's been mentioned it makes no difference, it does not add to nor distract from the image.
I'm proud to have given it a 10
Darren
Message edited by author 2004-10-08 12:15:39.
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10/08/2004 12:23:11 PM · #9 |
| i think the reason the phone poles were so "glaring" was because when you're lookin at the picture as it loads, the first thing you can see is the phone polls. i suppose if you have a fast connection, you may not notice, but otherwise, if you watch it load, the phone poles are the first thing you see. |
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10/08/2004 12:32:34 PM · #10 |
I've to confess that I didn't notice the phone pole , it didn't distract me. Congratulation for this really nice photo !
I just have read the comments left during the challenge , it's incredible to see how many different points of view ... LOL
My 2 favorites were yours and "Aloft" (Brad) , I'm sorry yours didn't get a ribbon. |
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10/08/2004 01:02:39 PM · #11 |
I don't think it's distracting. Maybe for someone who has ADD. Who wants to ride their bikes? ;-)
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10/08/2004 09:26:16 PM · #12 |
By far, I pefer the original shot. I didn't vote in this challenge, but I must admit that I too would have commented on the phone pole. The first thought it gave me, though, was along the lines of "even in all this tranquillity, the reality of modern life is just around the corner." All in all, I'd consider all this a happy accident. Look at all the emotions and opinions this photo created! And 60 comments is awesome! I hope to humbly follow in your footsteps.
Edited: Oops. Fixed a typo. Can't help it. I'm a tech writer/editor. :-)
Message edited by author 2004-10-08 21:27:42. |
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10/08/2004 09:44:16 PM · #13 |
| Laurie, I to am amazed at how many comment there are on the pole! This is a great shot, one of my favorite in the challenge. I don't think I even noticed it and now, knowing it's there, it still doesn't take a thing away from the shot. Great job! |
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10/09/2004 01:41:26 AM · #14 |
yeah, i guess if you are really looking at the image, it can be a distraction. i'd leave the crop the same, but simply clone the damn thing out. it's always the little things...
anyways, i think it's a great shot, with or without the pole! |
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10/09/2004 02:23:12 AM · #15 |
I didn't think much about the phone pole till you mentioned it, but once you did, it really sticks out.
I like the cropping of outtake two better, but I like them walking away better. Because then it could be anyones childhood stroll. Since the shot was posed, the thought comes to mind... what about walking away and one of the kids looking back over their shoulder.
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10/09/2004 04:01:03 AM · #16 |
Hi Laurie,
I've just started getting to the point where I am paying as much attention to the background in a photo as the foreground. I really like your photo, but probably would have taken this one from a bit farther to the right to eliminate the poles and to show a bit more of the trail in the distance. I noticed the pole and thought it was a bit distracting, but obviously not as much as others did. I think I was focused less on that minor distraction than on the elements in this photo that I really liked, such the emotion of the dad walking with his sons and that dusty West Texas feel you captured so well and then added to with the duotone. Overall, this is a really excellent shot, Laurie.
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10/09/2004 04:02:20 AM · #17 |
I like a lot, but I also really liked your entry, and gave it a 7. Frankly, I didn't even notice the pole... it's simply a part of the photograph's environment, and I don't think it detracts at all from the overall effect. In general, I prefer reality with this type of photo - it makes me as a viewer feel closer to the subjects when I can absorb their surroundings as they are. Editing out or carefully avoiding the "uglier" bits often makes the photograph less real and less effective, which is fine in many instances, but less appropriate (in my opinion) for emotionally charged and candid photos. After all, you can't paint an accurate picture of many modern places (especially in the US) without having a few hints of industry.
But that's just my opinion. I often differ with people here on DPC :) |
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10/09/2004 04:08:38 AM · #18 |
pole didn't bother me at all. voted a 9.
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10/09/2004 06:09:03 AM · #19 |
| Yeah I probably would of scored this low. Those three people in the foreground are distracting my view of that really great looking phone pole.... Nah just kidding. I think its quite an awesome photograph & of the three samples, your chosen entry is the pick of the group. I have to be honest, I would never of thought that a phone pole on the side of the road (where it belongs) would effect the outcome of so many commentors & ultimately voters perception. Well now I'm armed with this knowledge there will be no telephone poles in any of my future challenges. |
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10/09/2004 07:24:13 AM · #20 |
I like your first outtake much better, somehow has much more impact.
About the phone poles : lot's of people took a lot of time to provide comments, so every little thing will be seen and mentioned. I did it as well, I didn't think it was a big disturbance but thought the picture would still improve without the poles.
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10/09/2004 09:30:15 AM · #21 |
Wow...thanks for all the great feedback, guys! I do appreciate it! It's kind of interesting...these shots were taken during the shoot for my "Mirrors" entry. I had no intentions of ever using them. My kids were there and wanted Mommy to take their picture too, so after shooting what I needed for "Mirrors" I sent them over to Daddy and he just started walking up the road with them. I took about 6 shots I think, just to make them happy and let them be a part of what I was doing, not thinking I'd ever use the pictures at all. When I got back home, I noticed that they were really kind of cute and would be neat for the family scrapbook. When Master's came up, and I had NOTHING to choose from to enter, I revisited a lot of old folders on my desktop and came back across these. I thought, "What the heck" and worked on a few of them. I still think my entry is a great shot for our family album and will be making a print of it for our wall at home and one for my office. I do TRULY appreciate the feedback, and I will be on the lookout for any more telephone poles in ANY shot in the future!!! LOL
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10/09/2004 10:40:19 AM · #22 |
Laurie Hon, I think the shot with the poles was by far the stronger shot. Only thing I woulda changed was picking you up and moving you to the left 4 or 5 feet so the mans black shirt would be against a lighter background. Left ya a comment this morning on the shot. You made my wall paper of the day again!
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10/09/2004 10:48:28 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by TooCool:
... Only thing I woulda changed was picking you up and moving you to the left 4 or 5 feet so the mans black shirt would be against a lighter background. |
Good point! There is something about this composition ... it reminded me immediately of this shot I took about three years ago of my dad and my son ... Into The Woods. |
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