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07/15/2005 11:31:43 AM · #1 |
Here is a tutorial which shows how to convert to Black-and-white properly and a couple of other great tricks you might have not seen before. |
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07/15/2005 11:41:04 AM · #2 |
I've read a few of his articles and I like his style. Yet another way of conversion to try.
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07/15/2005 11:41:46 AM · #3 |
That's an interesting conversion method. I think there are as many B+W conversion methods as there are photographers, LOL. The writer maintains that this is the "proper" method, which is kinda overstating the fact. There are many good conversion methods. This one has some possible pitfalls. It uses Hue/saturation, which must be used very carefully to avoid posterization (he alludes to this in the procedure). I find that the Chanel Mixer method is a good basic technique that isn't as prone to this. There are certainly other good techniques as well, and personal preference will play a large part in what you feel works best for you.
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07/15/2005 11:44:47 AM · #4 |
That's a killer good tutorial. And an approach I have never seen (I thought I'd seen 'em all). I'll give it a try.
R.
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07/15/2005 11:49:57 AM · #5 |
After using the channel mixer, I don't think I can go with the saturation method again. Too much data is lost with de saturation when you have a low contrast image (low contrast in the grays) which can be fixed by using different amounts of red/green/blue with the mixer.
The main problem with the mixer is that you are using red/green/blue. Meaning that sometimes the objects you are working with have different colors, and thus could potentially require different values of rgb mixing to look good... |
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07/15/2005 12:27:26 PM · #6 |
| Thanks Dallas TX for the heads up on the B&W tutorial. Also found the Basic edit 101 helpful.Thanks again! |
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07/15/2005 01:13:13 PM · #7 |
| Wow! This looks really good, like it will answer a lot of the questions I've been having about how to touch-up my pics. I can't wait to get home and try it. Is it 5 0-clock yet? :) |
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07/15/2005 01:14:49 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
Wow! This looks really good, like it will answer a lot of the questions I've been having about how to touch-up my pics. I can't wait to get home and try it. Is it 5 0-clock yet? :) |
somewhere. ;o)
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07/15/2005 01:17:56 PM · #9 |
| LOL Rock on Jimmy Buffett! I love his music! |
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07/15/2005 01:21:16 PM · #10 |
Actually, I'm not sure the article ever states the METHOD is the proper way, in fact, it said several times, that there's a lot of ways it can be done. The term "properly", to me, refered to "proper end results".
No offense to anyone, but it's only fair to be fair. |
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07/15/2005 01:34:02 PM · #11 |
| What is the "Channel Mixer" method? |
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07/15/2005 01:37:24 PM · #12 |
For those who are interested in converting to B&W using Hue/Saturation, here's a Quicktime Movie tutorial. This is the method I use most often.
But if I want to go further than that, I use the channels to layers method with Clip Masking.
I sometimes use the Channel Mixer too - it all depends on the colour information present in the image I am working with.
edit: Cli == Clip!
Message edited by author 2005-07-15 13:42:46. |
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07/16/2005 11:14:34 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Dallas_TX:
Here is a tutorial which shows how to convert to Black-and-white properly and a couple of other great tricks you might have not seen before. |
The same method is described in This Canon CPS Paper. |
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07/16/2005 11:35:04 AM · #14 |
Just keep in mind that using a Layer in anything other than Normal mode is not allowed for Basic Challenges.
So the method described in this tutorial can't be used for Basic Challenges. However, there are many other B&W conversion methods so it's good to learn this one and have a few other options in your bag of tricks.
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07/16/2005 11:42:45 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by renonovado:
What is the "Channel Mixer" method? |
Channel Mixer is the method at the bottom. Channel Mixer
The thing I like about this guy's method is that he duplicates the adjusted layer, which really creates deep contrasts. Not good for every picture, but handy at times.
Message edited by author 2005-07-16 11:43:08. |
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07/16/2005 01:11:30 PM · #16 |
| Thanks for the link. That was a very good tutorial on several ways to convert to B/W. |
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07/16/2005 01:12:00 PM · #17 |
| Thanks for the link. That was a very good tutorial on several ways to convert to B/W. |
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07/25/2005 05:29:59 PM · #18 |
Interesting.
I have found good results simply converting the image to Lab Color and deleting the A and B channels. Often a quick Auto Levels can sometimes help.
Jim |
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