comments vs critiques - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

10/11/2002 12:03:04 PM · #1

this may have been touched on already and may be implimented in some manner on for the new site .. but is there any place in either the photographer's profile or in the voting box to leave seperate things either a comment or critique? or have the photographer say whether he or she wants a comment or critique on his or her photo in the challenge?

I really think some people are getting too technical in leaving critiques when the box says comments ...

my 2 cents

Konador

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

10/11/2002 12:05:10 PM · #2

A lot of people don't know the difference between a comment or a critique anyway, and there would always be people leaving them in the wrong box.

I think it's alright just having one box for people to leave whatever they want. A critique, after all, is still really a form of comment.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

10/11/2002 12:42:40 PM · #3

Originally posted by Konador:
A lot of people don't know the difference between a comment or a critique anyway, and there would always be people leaving them in the wrong box.

I think it's alright just having one box for people to leave whatever they want. A critique, after all, is still really a form of comment.

That is true .. but people are leaving me "comments" when they are really critques - trying to cover all bases ... and i think it's more like getting graded at school ... not having fun with photography ... maybe i only want to get a comment saying whether the person liked the photo and what stood out than technicalities or composition getting a number score. Sometimes things dont need to be that detailed

Konador

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

10/11/2002 12:51:30 PM · #4

A very good point.

I thought most people would find this info useful for their future photography, but if you just do it for fun and want know know what people think rather than whats wrong or right with your photo, your initial suggestion makes sense.

It is a good idea :)

Sonifo

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

10/11/2002 12:57:15 PM · #5

So what you are saying that getting better is not your intentions. It is like going on a diet, but not wanting to lose weight or exercizing and not getting more fit. Of course I would like to grow in everything I do. That is all part of life. Learning, growing, becoming wiser! That doesn't include spelling. :)

I want the critiques, please!!
Sonja

Gekker

Fujifilm FinePix S602Z

10/11/2002 01:02:08 PM · #6

If I get a comment/critique that doesn't help me to take better pictures, I just move on to the next one. In your case I suggest thinking of it as the fine print on a contract, incredibly useful but most don't read it anyway. It is just easier to ignore than try to have it removed.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

10/11/2002 01:15:02 PM · #7

Originally posted by Sonifo:
So what you are saying that getting better is not your intentions. It is like going on a diet, but not wanting to lose weight or exercizing and not getting more fit. Of course I would like to grow in everything I do. That is all part of life. Learning, growing, becoming wiser! That doesn't include spelling. :)

I want the critiques, please!!
Sonja

But then again ... critques are nice when you understand them ... for someone to make a critiques and just put composition = 5 for example ... how is that helping me? I am here to learn - but somethings need to just be explained than have a number next to them ... that's what i mean - if someone is going to critique and comment - at least make it worth the time to both the photographer and commenter and make it worth reading ... if you are commenting or critiquing someone on their photograph why cant someone just explain instead of assigning the numbers within the critique - that's what the score is for

Sonifo

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

10/11/2002 02:07:05 PM · #8

I agree with you PhotosByAmye. They should explain more, but then at the same time at least they are telling why they gave you the score they did. It is better then your score going down and not knowing why. That is frustrating. Do you understand what composition means or the other terms used? If not, I would ask them what their definition is for the words. Some people have different opinions on the meanings of the words used in photography. :)
Sonja

timj351

Sony DSC-F707

10/11/2002 02:13:25 PM · #9

Since it isn't practical to write a lot and plus the fact that I am a pretty bad typist, I usually just pick out one or two areas to comment on and say if and why I like it or not. But everyone has there own styles and I think you can learn something from everyone.

T

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

10/11/2002 02:17:24 PM · #10

Disclaimor -- This is only remotely related to the point Ayme brings up! It just sparked my mind on an issue I had been thinking about, and once my mind and fingers start working together, I have no choice but to go along! Ayme, I promise, this is NOT directed at you!

Back to our regularly scheduled program!

Okay, I am confused. I have been reading the forums since April, and it goes something like this:

--I want more comments
--Stupid commenters, don't they know anything
--I want more comments, help be get better
--Crazy trolls, get a life!
--I want more comments
--How does this help my photography
--I want more comments, what can I do to be better

And now (and I have to say, I have used the comment box for critiques--sorry, never distinguished a difference), some people don't want critiques, only comments, or explanations with numbers, so I am sure there are people that want only critiques not comments and people who only want numbers. :-) What is a poor commenter to do?. Like others on this site, I have tried to offer a layperson's opinion when possible, sometimes helping, sometimes not, I guess.

I guess what I am trying to say is, if you want feedback, it may be in the form of comments, and it may be in the form of critiques. When I look at a picture, I do not know which one you want, so if I give you the opposite, or something useful, consider the source and ignore me!