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 08/19/2005 05:48:16 AM · #1
help me please what camerashall i get the Canon EOS 350D or the nikon D70.
 08/19/2005 06:07:27 AM · #2
LOL

You asked for it.... Canon of course! ;-)

08/19/2005 06:26:55 AM · #3
Originally posted by Carl40:
help me please what camerashall i get the Canon EOS 350D or the nikon D70.


With the 350D in your profile it looks like you have already made your mind up. ;-)
 08/19/2005 06:32:27 AM · #4
Originally posted by Carl40:
help me please what camerashall i get the Canon EOS 350D or the nikon D70.


And your reason for choosing Canon or Nikon is? Let me guess, because you think they are the best and only cameras in the world and because all your friends have one. Don't just follow the herd. Go out there and check out the other cameras and find what works best for you. Pick one up and hold it. I was thinking about Canon at one time to until I really did my homework and found for me the Olympus E-1 was the one for me. I think it is the best camera out there and blows the 20D away INHO. But that's just me.
08/19/2005 06:44:59 AM · #5
Canon EOS since 1999: 1D, D60, 10D, 300D, 1D mkII, 1Ds mkII, 20D, 350D (5D)

...when Olympus has the same number of bodies (not even to mention lenses) for the E system, then I think they'll get more respect. Until then, the Olympus E system is what I believe analysts call "niche".
 08/19/2005 06:58:28 AM · #6
Personally i would go for the canon, not that the Nikon is bad. I just a canon man!!
 08/19/2005 07:02:40 AM · #7
//www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos350d%2Cnikon_d70&show=all

The above may help you choose, go to a camera store and hold them both if you can, I think there is quite a difference in size, you may find that one suits you better. Personally I would go with the Canon (newer sensor).
 08/19/2005 07:19:08 AM · #8
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Canon EOS since 1999: 1D, D60, 10D, 300D, 1D mkII, 1Ds mkII, 20D, 350D (5D)

...when Olympus has the same number of bodies (not even to mention lenses) for the E system, then I think they'll get more respect. Until then, the Olympus E system is what I believe analysts call "niche".


Well the Canon and Nikon analysts may call it what they will and to tell the truth I don't really care and one buying a system should not care either. As far as lens go how many do you have or even need? Olympus is coming out with some great new lenses this year. f/2 zooms that are f/2 through the full range of the zoom. Does Canon even have any like that? Not mention that the lenses are made for the sensor size to give better edge to edge sharpness. The Canon lenses are made for 35mm sensors and like it or not the 35mm sensors are going to be out no matter how hard Canon tries to keep them alive. Things are getting smaller in this world, not bigger. I have the 300mm f/2.8 prime and a 1.4 TC which gives me the equivalent of 850mm at f/4 (35mm) in a package in the size of a 300mm. Does Canon have an 800+mm f/4? Also do they have a 7mm?
08/19/2005 07:24:07 AM · #9

Ah the old Canon vs Nikon question! You can't go wrong with either it's just what you think will work for you! The Olympus E system is fantastic and yes, when they have a bigger selection of lenses will be even better!
 08/19/2005 07:28:04 AM · #10
Originally posted by TomH1000:
one buying a system should not care either.

Someone buying a system shouldn't worry about its long-term viability and current support? What?!

So I'll go out and buy RandomMobile's mkI SuperCar and not worry if I'll be able to get parts in two years time?!

It's not Canon or Nikon analysts, it's fundamental marketing theory. Olympus E-system is niche. If you buy into ANY niche you take the gamble that it potentially dies rather than flourishes. That's just the way it is.
 08/19/2005 08:26:30 AM · #11
Minolta and Pentax are hardly niche, and have a large range of lenses. I agree that people need to see beyond Nikon/Canon, the Minolta system is much better for my needs than anything from Nikon/Canon.

Message edited by author 2005-08-19 08:26:55.
 08/19/2005 09:05:28 AM · #12
Amazing how many editors in some of the photo mags who are admitting to personally using and owning a Pentax *ist-D or descendent. I admit, I like not being a member of the C or N herds.... Mooooooo

Also nice to be able to use any lens ever produced for the Pentax system on my *ist-DS

Message edited by author 2005-08-19 09:06:38.
 08/19/2005 09:19:33 AM · #13
Remember that when ou are choosing a camera, you are choosing a system. Look at the lenses available for that system, and choose based on what will work for you. Both Nikon and Canon make great camera bodies and they both also make great lenses.
A couple observations, you can take these as just personal opinion...

- Canon is arguably the technology leader, while Nikon is taking the role of "fast follower". Being a good fast follower is not always a bad thing, and Nikon seems to be having success. There are certainly areas where Nikon can be viewed as the technology leader, so this is a generalization but is not all-inclusive.
- The Canon EOS bodies are the most flexible as far as acceptance of other systems' lenses. You can use Leica-mount, Contax mount, M42 screw mount, Nikon F mount, among others on Canon EOS bodies; the only caveat is the lens will of course be fully manual.

Bottom line, examine what you feel will be the types of photography you will want to do, and then figure out which system makes most sense. In reality, it's hard to go wrong :-)
 08/19/2005 09:40:51 AM · #14
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Originally posted by TomH1000:
one buying a system should not care either.

Someone buying a system shouldn't worry about its long-term viability and current support? What?!

So I'll go out and buy RandomMobile's mkI SuperCar and not worry if I'll be able to get parts in two years time?!

It's not Canon or Nikon analysts, it's fundamental marketing theory. Olympus E-system is niche. If you buy into ANY niche you take the gamble that it potentially dies rather than flourishes. That's just the way it is.


Yeah, like all those who had thousands tied up in FD lenses, their "niche" came to an abrupt end.
 08/19/2005 10:11:23 AM · #15
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Yeah, like all those who had thousands tied up in FD lenses, their "niche" came to an abrupt end.

There's always going to be points of sudden transition. That said, I can still buy FD lenses from B&H...
 08/19/2005 10:13:21 AM · #16
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Yeah, like all those who had thousands tied up in FD lenses, their "niche" came to an abrupt end.

There's always going to be points of sudden transition. That said, I can still buy FD lenses from B&H...


Just like I can still buy Zuiko lenses for my OM2
 08/19/2005 10:33:32 AM · #17
Why don't you try to get a feel for each of the cameras? You can disregard all this lenses and systems talk and just pick the one that you feel better with.
I think you should also try the Olympus before commiting to Canon or Nikon. I only ever used Olympus P&S cameras (ocasionally), but the ones I used were really nice.
 08/19/2005 10:46:55 AM · #18
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Just like I can still buy Zuiko lenses for my OM2

If you notice I was very careful to talk about the E-system maturity, not Olympus as a whole.
 08/19/2005 10:51:04 AM · #19
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Just like I can still buy Zuiko lenses for my OM2

If you notice I was very careful to talk about the E-system maturity, not Olympus as a whole.


If you replaced "E-system" with "OM system" in your posts, we could be back in the 1970's when many dismissed the OM system in a similar manner.
 08/19/2005 10:51:55 AM · #20
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Originally posted by TomH1000:
one buying a system should not care either.

If you buy into ANY niche you take the gamble that it potentially dies rather than flourishes. That's just the way it is.


That may be true but like I said, lets face it. The time of the full frame 35mm sensors days are numbered. Bigger is not better in this case. Smaller faster lenses is the way to go and Olympus sees this. What you will have is a dinosaur if you hang on to that full frame 35mm sensor camera and it looks like that Canon will stop making the 1.3 sensors and make only 35mm size which I think and, so do many others including Canon owners, think is a bad move. So anyway, you never answered my question. Dose Canon make lenses like the ones I mentioned? Just wondering that̢۪s all.

08/19/2005 10:54:16 AM · #21
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
If you replaced "E-system" with "OM system" in your posts, we could be back in the 1970's when many dismissed the OM system in a similar manner.

History doesn't always repeat itself.
 08/19/2005 10:56:32 AM · #22
Originally posted by TomH1000:
Dose Canon make lenses like the ones I mentioned? Just wondering that’s all.

I'm guessing not. So you're suggesting people should jump onto the E-system because of a few product differentiators?

The Delorean had cool gull-wing doors and a lightweight aluminium body. Didn't make it a good investment.
 08/19/2005 10:58:03 AM · #23
Incidentally - I'm not saying the E-system won't be the next big thing. What I'm saying is, there is a risk it will fade away.
 08/19/2005 11:04:52 AM · #24
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Originally posted by TomH1000:
Dose Canon make lenses like the ones I mentioned? Just wondering that̢۪s all.

I'm guessing not. So you're suggesting people should jump onto the E-system because of a few product differentiators?

The Delorean had cool gull-wing doors and a lightweight aluminium body. Didn't make it a good investment.


Actually, the body on the DeLorean was stainless steel, unpainted, of course.
08/19/2005 11:05:44 AM · #25
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
If you replaced "E-system" with "OM system" in your posts, we could be back in the 1970's when many dismissed the OM system in a similar manner.

History doesn't always repeat itself.


Not always, but frequently.
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