Question for 5D owners... - DPChallenge Forums

11/10/2006 11:26:01 AM · #2

I haven't seen any problem with vignetting.

11/10/2006 11:34:18 AM · #3

Yeah I get it bad.. ok well not so bad that its ever bothered me.. on my portrait lenses its not so bad but on my 400 its a bit more predominate... but with my style I have learned to include it in my images and if it doesn't fit the image I shoot in raw so I can take it out in pscs2's raw editor..

Now this has been an issue since the camera was first released, but not every lenses effects it.. if you use Canon lenses I have read that you will never see this issue.. I use sigma and see it. A friend of mine has some canon glass and I didn't notice it.. but thats just one instance and nothing to base an opinion on.

11/10/2006 11:44:49 AM · #4

I get some vignetting at the wide end of my 24-105L. However, for wide angle, that is probably to be expected. I don't notice it on my 50mm when I take it out and I don't see it on the zoomed end of the 24-105.

bfox2

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

11/10/2006 11:46:41 AM · #5

Yes, you will in general notice more vignetting on the 5D because it uses more of the light circle cast by the lens. No I don't believe that the sensors are defective.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

11/10/2006 11:51:22 AM · #6

"Vignetting happens."

It's really no different than it was with film. Well, not exactly, the digital sensor's higher reflectivity *might* make it a little more sensitive. Bottom line, the difference in vignetting between a film camera and the 5D is not really perceptible in normal use.
As pointed out by a previous poster, some lenses will produce more vignetting than others, even in the same focal length range.
Finally, it's so easily correctable that I just don't see it as an issue. The *only* application where it is bothersome to me at all is in astrophotography, and then it is in the realm of "minor annoyance."

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

11/10/2006 11:56:24 AM · #7

I agree I don't think the sensors are defective, and I cannot find anywhere where Canon says it is.. And as a business I wouldn't think Canon would release something like that.

In my exp, no camera has ever been 100% flaw free.. this ones does this that one does that all different than I would like.. if the little bit of vignetting is a problem then that person should look at another camera, and shouldn't flame people who have that camera, because he/she has no idea the reasons one would have for liking the camera in question.. Just like I have no idea what he/she is using for a camera.. as long as they are happy with the final results does it really matter?

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

11/10/2006 12:03:09 PM · #8

There are a *lot* of people that don't understand the premise of the 5D, and why it is a "fit" for many of us. That's fine and good, it's "horses for courses" and some, perhaps most photographers don't want or need the larger format. But a subset of those that don't understand the difference between APS-C and 35mm will bash the 5D, and vignetting is one thing that they ffocus on. The other is dust.
Funny thing is, 5D owners are a happy bunch, with a few exceptions... those are the folks that bought the 5D because of the hype, not because it was the right camera for them.

11/10/2006 12:04:25 PM · #9

Kirbic

Nicely said!!

11/10/2006 12:06:29 PM · #10

horses for courses?

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

11/10/2006 12:08:46 PM · #11

Horses for courses means that what is suitable for one person or situation might be unsuitable for another.

Falc

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

11/10/2006 12:12:54 PM · #12

The full frame sensor is just the most wonderful thing. The APS-C based camera owners just can't imagine how bright and big the viewfinder is. Bigger sensor allows bigger mirror, allows bigger viewfinder, allows more light.

Vignetting - who cares ;-)

Message edited by author 2006-11-10 12:13:09.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

11/10/2006 12:13:06 PM · #13

Originally posted by koriley:

Horses for courses means that what is suitable for one person or situation might be unsuitable for another.

Ya, why didn't I see that? (rolls eyes)

deapee

Kodak V803

11/10/2006 12:40:59 PM · #14

Originally posted by Falc:

The full frame sensor is just the most wonderful thing. The APS-C based camera owners just can't imagine how bright and big the viewfinder is.

Isn't the viewfinder on the 5d only marginally bigger than that of the d200?

NstiG8tr

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

11/10/2006 12:43:06 PM · #15

I'm with Jason about the 24-105. Also it becomes really noticable at the wide end of my 17-40. It doesn't really bother me though because it's easily fixed in PP. Sometimes I like the effect and I leave it alone. Anything beyond 35-40mm I don't notice to much.

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

11/10/2006 12:44:08 PM · #16

[ddpNikon]

why you gotta come start stuff.. why not just let us toot our own horn.. :)

naw just kidding, I have no idea the answer to your question.. sorry, have never touched a nikon unfortinatly..

Message edited by author 2006-11-10 12:44:47.

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

11/10/2006 01:17:34 PM · #17

I use the 17-40 on my film camera and notice a little vignetting at 17. It depends on the shot as to how noticable it is. It would probably be the same on the 5D.

Message edited by author 2006-11-10 13:17:59.

Mick

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

11/10/2006 02:02:34 PM · #18

All camera/lens combinations exhibit vignetting to some extent. Some combinations are worse than others. Full-frame cameras like the 5D use more of the image circle, so naturally they are more sensitive to lens design and quality.

Here's a good article about vignetting.

FYI...

"//www.the-digital-picture.com has recently added full-frame vignetting test results for a large number of lenses. The results show f-stop contour lines as well as a rectangle indicating the x1.6 APS-C frame coverage.

Results are available up to f/8 both bare lens (pure optical vignetting / light falloff) as well as with a standard-thickness UV filter attached to the lens so you can see the additional effect of physical vignetting. You can even compare two different lenses on the screen together."

hankk

Canon EOS-5D

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Canon

11/10/2006 02:14:38 PM · #19

There's some vignetting on some lenses, but its not too bad unless you have a lot of a solid color, like a blue sky.

Message edited by author 2006-11-10 14:16:38.

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

11/10/2006 02:49:51 PM · #20

The is likely to represent the absolute worst situation for vignetting you are going to get at 24mm. A canvas with lots of solid colors shot straight into the sun.

And here it is with, what, literally 4 seconds of manipulation...

Both are straight from RAW with only a resize.

Message edited by author 2006-11-10 14:50:06.

scarbrd

Leica M10

11/10/2006 02:53:24 PM · #21

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

The is likely to represent the absolute worst situation for vignetting you are going to get at 24mm. A canvas with lots of solid colors shot straight into the sun.

And here it is with, what, literally 4 seconds of manipulation...

Both are straight from RAW with only a resize.

Is removing vignetting permitted using the vignette filter in the RAW conversion tool in CS2 in Basic? We all know using it to add vignetting is not allowed.

Mick

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

11/10/2006 05:33:51 PM · #22

Originally posted by scarbrd:

Is removing vignetting permitted using the vignette filter in the RAW conversion tool in CS2 in Basic? We all know using it to add vignetting is not allowed.

No selection is required to add or remove vignetting, so why would either disallowed in basic editing?