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04/09/2007 11:23:39 AM · #3101

Originally posted by raish:

Not sure how best to correlate to comments received. I was wandering by a factory - and factories are pretty much anachronisms in this town - noticing that it was indeed so anachronistic as to be a factory dedicated to the production of sails and sailcloth. The factory is of course closed down. On the wall is a plaque commemorating two workers at the factory who 'died for their country'. It had to be fairly cryptic, but I squeezed the above information into the title, just in case. Apart from one amusing response in Swedish, all comments explained that it was not an anachronism. I can only assume that American voters still buy into the idea of dying for ones country. One feels just a little ill.

Raish: I guess I won't bother permanently recording my comment on your anachronism shot, because your comments here seem to indicate they wouldn't be welcome. So I'll just post them here.

First, I think your assumption is incorrect. Most people, including me, don't speak whatever language the sign is in (Swedish?), so wouldn't know what it meant. I'm sure that applies to most people at DPC, regardless of country, not just Americans. DNMC comments, therefore, probably weren't from people who understood you were talking about the idea of dying for your country. Instead, I'd bet they saw what I saw: a sign remembering a couple of people for some reason.

Maybe it's a language problem. Perhaps when you put the term "commemorate" in your title, you intended to clear up the meaning? However, that term can mean any form of remembrance for any reason, not just to note people who died for their country.

Now, even if it had been clear, you probably would still have gotten plenty of DNMC comments. But at least you then would have been making a subtle point people just disagreed with. Unfortunately, I think your point was simply missed because of language.

Now, as to the question of whether dying for your country is anachronistic, I guess you and I are just different. I think that sacrifice of any kind for a worthy cause is, indeed, appropriate and worth remembering. Not just dying, and not just for your country, but yes, including that ultimate act.

I don't mean that all death is a good thing, but there are definitely times when risking that is appropriate. WWII, for example.

Message edited by author 2007-04-09 11:25:19.

raish

Olympus C-2500L

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

04/09/2007 12:02:42 PM · #3102

Thanks, Jeff.

I guess the context might have helped. These guys hardly had a choice - Norway was occupied. I would have thought the language in 'falt for sitt land' would be transparent enough, but what doesn't show, maybe, is that this isn't so much a public monument as a plaque set up at the place where they worked, for the benefit of their comrades. Nobody works there any more and hardly anybody goes there either. The impression that I have when I look at it is of two brave, hard, decent and honourable men. It's stretching a point, but I can't help thinking of these as qualities from another time.

A boy dressed up in theatrical costume is not an anachronism. It's bang up to date. I'm not in a very good mood here, sorry. It's not like the picture's prize winning material or anything.

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04/09/2007 12:09:30 PM · #3103

Originally posted by raish:

I would have thought the language in 'falt for sitt land' would be transparent enough

That's the problem - it really, really isn't. People have trouble here sometimes with English, much less Norwegian or Swedish. Even Americans have trouble sometimes with English. ;)

And trust me, I won't argue with you about some of the other entries!

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

04/09/2007 01:22:36 PM · #3104

Originally posted by levyj413:

Your shot is a great example of where the image is the starting place, and the editing is the end game. If you want to get some specific examples, toss it out in a forum thread and invite others to process it. See what you get. Maybe you won't like any of them better, which is just fine. But maybe you'd get some ideas.

A lot of what I now do in terms of editing came about because of things like that, where people made suggestions on my shots in a thread.

I thought I'd try this even though I rarely get much in way of responses. Again, this is why I try to stick to TS members when looking for feedback. It's been two hours, I've had plenty of views, yet not one single response. Is is me? Do I stink as well as suck? Sigh...

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04/09/2007 01:25:58 PM · #3105

Originally posted by Kelli:

Give it time and bump it this evening.

You might also send a note to Brad - he's a PS wizard and very friendly.

Now that I know you'd like some ideas, I'll play with it tonight, too. :)

One more thing - you might try another forum thread title if this one doesn't work out - not everyone will know what "pimp my gators" means.

I find short, direct things like "how could I improve this" yields a decent number of responses. And in your first post, as you did on the current thread, specifically invite people to process your photo.

skewsme

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 200mm f/2.8 L II USM Lens

04/09/2007 05:19:35 PM · #3106

sorry jeff, i don't agree.
if 'pimp my gators' doesn't pique yer curiosity, nothing will ;-)

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04/09/2007 05:25:30 PM · #3107

Originally posted by skewsme:

sorry jeff, i don't agree.
if 'pimp my gators' doesn't pique yer curiosity, nothing will ;-)

Heh. Especially since one person already complimented the thread title in her post. :)

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04/10/2007 01:40:29 AM · #3108

Kelli, I didn't get to your shot tonight. Sorry.

I was busy shooting my night shot entry, and oh, boy, am I excited about this one. :) I'm as excited about this as I was about my color portrait entry.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

04/10/2007 02:00:21 AM · #3109

I have a whole bunch of shots from which to choose for Bicycles. None will be "a hit" with the DPC crowd, so I figure I'll probably enter the one least likely to succeed, mostly because it's the one I like best. It may be good for a Posthumous comment, though!

Good luck with the night shot, Jeff - I'm sure it will do well - you're good at those!

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04/10/2007 02:04:24 AM · #3110

Originally posted by Melethia:

Good luck with the night shot, Jeff - I'm sure it will do well - you're good at those!

Thanks. This is a different kind of shot. Well, the result is a typical shot for me, but the subjects and manner of taking it are quite different. Regardless, I have no doubt that northern lights will take 3 of the top 5 slots and 5 of the top 10. And 4 of those will be in Iceland.

Good luck in bikes! You're good at those. :)

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klstover

Panasonic DMC-FZ8

04/10/2007 02:20:49 AM · #3111

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04/10/2007 09:25:01 AM · #3112

thanks for the comment on the goose pic, deb. now you know - i am the duck/goose whisperer...

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

04/10/2007 09:33:11 AM · #3113

Could have used you yesterday - there are bunch of ducklings/goslings at the park I tried to shoot, but the silly pigeons were always trying to hog the limelight (and the food everyone kept trying to give the ducklings). I shall find a shot or two to post later on.

And Kelly, you can complain all you want about scores here - perfectly allowable! :-)

kashi

Nikon D60

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G

04/10/2007 09:48:12 AM · #3114

Might I have a momentary brag ?

This photo :

It just garnered me a new personal best, and one that I'm positive will stand for quite a while. Also a top-10 finish (but it was a very small number of entries).

It was an expert-editing challenge, and I'm kind of laughing about my score, as there really is nothing "expert" about the editing, unless cloning out the shirt-sleeve counts.

But it was kind of fun to put together. The original vase is actually behind Teddy, holding him up - using the belt to tie him to the vase.
The vase on the "table" is the cap off a bottle of hair detangler.
The flowers are toothpicks and some fabric flowers that I bought years ago at a fabric store.
The table is the box from my 50-mm lens covered in a white wash cloth.
The hand belongs to my hubby,

klstover

Panasonic DMC-FZ8

04/10/2007 09:54:46 AM · #3115

Originally posted by Melethia:

And Kelly, you can complain all you want about scores here - perfectly allowable! :-)

*hug*

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

04/10/2007 10:11:42 AM · #3116

Originally posted by metatate:

Personally, I like the OOBIE / YAPPIE award nomination technique for people who think differently or are particularly helpful in critiques. This would reward people that make the site better - not just by getting ribbons but by conributing in a positve way.

This could be incorporated into free memberships somehow but I'm not sure it's going to be done from the top. One scenerio if it was incorporated into the site: There could be an automated nomination system I suppose, which would allow each member to nominate maybe 3 people each month for an award that would result in a benefit of extended or free membership for a period of time.

Another scenerio one that I think would work would be that reputable groups such as Team Suck would be given two free memberships that they could give away along with the YAPPIE / OOBIE ewach month. THe same think could happen for the WPL MVP and other groups that maintain a positive relationship with DPC and generally make the site better.

we're now REPUTABLE?????? cool! and very odd.

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Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

04/10/2007 10:24:35 AM · #3117

Originally posted by xianart:

we're now REPUTABLE?????? cool! and very odd.

ROFLMAO!!

On another note... is our OOBIE/Yappie going to work without Mary? And is this all going to get swept up under the rug? Other than us, does anyone else even have a clue what happened?

snaffles

Nikon D7100

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

04/10/2007 10:25:29 AM · #3118

Hi all

been away from the comp for a few days, but now I'm baack!
Fitness
Votes: 223
Views: 293
Avg Vote: 4.3094
Comments: 4

Chains
Votes: 76
Views: 109
Avg Vote: 4.8684
Comments: 2

Yeehaw, so Chains should hit the 5s and stay there, I see no reason why not. Jeffrey, tried your lamb shanks recipe, VERY yummy! (Mind I only cooked 3 shanks, in a skillet as big as yours - how can you get 6 done is beyond me!)

OK gotta go catch up on the thread and do some voting!

raish

Olympus C-2500L

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

04/10/2007 10:32:51 AM · #3119

Originally posted by kashi:

Might I have a momentary brag ?

This photo :

It just garnered me a new personal best, and one that I'm positive will stand for quite a while

Yup, they's bragging rights, tho I have the feeling you'll be on and around scores like that quite a bit.

Congratulations - I impressed.

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04/10/2007 11:29:39 AM · #3120

Originally posted by Kelli:

On another note... is our OOBIE/Yappie going to work without Mary? And is this all going to get swept up under the rug? Other than us, does anyone else even have a clue what happened?

Huh? Without Mary?!?

What happened?

Edited: I found that long metatate quote:
//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=575563

But I'm still wandering in a daze about whatever you're saying happened to Mary.

Message edited by author 2007-04-10 11:43:45.

kashi

Nikon D60

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G

04/10/2007 11:38:35 AM · #3121

Originally posted by Kelli:

On another note... is our OOBIE/Yappie going to work without Mary? And is this all going to get swept up under the rug? Other than us, does anyone else even have a clue what happened?

OTHER than us ? I haven't a clue what you're talking about ?

Without Mary ? What happened to Mary ?
What's being swept under the rug ?

04/10/2007 11:45:12 AM · #3122

the metatate quote is from here.

isn't jeffrey now responsible for collecting and collating oobies and yappies? or have i misunderstood, yet again?

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04/10/2007 11:47:45 AM · #3123

Originally posted by xianart:

isn't jeffrey now responsible for collecting and collating oobies and yappies? or have i misunderstood, yet again?

WHOAH. NOOOOOOOOOO. NO. NO.

NO.

Clear enough? :)

*picks his jaw up off the floor*

I'm just responsible for notifying the winners after Mary posts them to the relevant threads.

Kelli, is that what you meant?

Anyway, here's Posthumous' post again for reference (I've bolded the sole responsibility of OYNC):

Originally posted by posthumous:

A. The importance of OOBIE and YAPPIE awards to the well-being of DPC,
B. The General Goodness and Swell Feeling of receiving said awards, and
C. The already overworked nature of certain quiet observations, it is hereby decided that a committee shall be formed known as The OOBIE YAPPIE NOTIFICATION COMMITTEE (OYNC pronounced oink) with characteristics such that

A. levyj413 is the leader of said committee,
B. levyj413 is sole member of said committee until such time as he recruits additional members to said committee, and
C. said committee shall be responsible for PMing anyone who receives any award under the auspices of Team Suck.

Message edited by author 2007-04-10 11:51:24.