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02/07/2007 01:09:58 AM · #1 |
Sorry to bug folks about this, but I read the discussions here and read a whole slew of stuff on the internet (I know, not always reliable - hence the slew) and thought I understood what Shallow DOF was. I'm more than willing to admit my shot was completely dull in comparison to everyone else's, but I just wanted to make sure I got the technical bit right since the comments I received (though the second is likely read into too much by myself due to the first) make me feel like I didn't.
Here it is:
Sorry about the babbling... and thanks in advance! |
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02/07/2007 01:14:06 AM · #2 |
yep, thats shallow DOF alright - just not particulary exciting - but still nice.
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02/07/2007 01:16:10 AM · #3 |
The actual term "Shallow DOF" is subjective in nature. One person's shallow is not another person's idea of what shallow is. In this challenge it was best to err on the side of extreme shallow depth of field, think razor thin.
However, to me and alot of "landscape" type shooters, the image you have posted would be considered shallow depth of field. Not everyone is this type of shooter here, so alot of people were looking for a "macro" type shallow. It is just really a matter of interpretation. You have a firm understanding as far as I am concerned.
Message edited by author 2007-02-07 01:17:10. |
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02/07/2007 01:18:46 AM · #4 |
I think you did ok getting DOF in your image. My advise would be to look at the top 20 images in this challenge, you may get a better picture to know what to aim for next time.
Maybe your composition, nothing wrong with it, but could have been a little more exciting.
You did well so keep at it..... |
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02/07/2007 01:59:34 AM · #5 |
here's good shallow dof:
it really pulls your eye in, usually the more expensive the lens, the more
shallow you can get [with the exception being primes].
ian
//www.itravelstockphoto.com |
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02/07/2007 02:23:58 AM · #6 |
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02/07/2007 03:19:18 AM · #7 |
| To make you feel a little less 'picked on' look at the full comments left by the first comment - the problem wasn't with your understanding. |
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02/07/2007 03:47:25 AM · #8 |
Dont worry, I dont think some people know what depth of field is...
Message edited by author 2007-02-07 03:48:18. |
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02/07/2007 03:52:06 AM · #9 |
Just to give you an idea how subjective the concept is, look at this image:
Here's two comments from the challenge:
1. "not shallow.. shallow means LOTS of blur that highlights the subject very clearly, usually from very close range"
2. "Nicely done, though I think just a little more DOF (to give more detail to the background) would make it even better."
So what can ya do?
R.
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02/07/2007 12:31:12 PM · #10 |
| Thanks, guys, for the reassurance! I know I was concentrating a whole lot on the technical aspect for this one (sacrificing some creativity and interestingness) and just wanted to be sure I had gotten it right. Sure is some range on what 'right' is, though! 0.o |
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02/07/2007 02:51:50 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Just to give you an idea how subjective the concept is, look at this image:
Here's two comments from the challenge:
1. "not shallow.. shallow means LOTS of blur that highlights the subject very clearly, usually from very close range"
2. "Nicely done, though I think just a little more DOF (to give more detail to the background) would make it even better."
So what can ya do?
R. |
At least  fantomas gave you a definition of what shallow meant to him. I had a comment from the same person, but mine was more blunt "not shallow". Oh well. The DNMC police hit me hard this challenge, but I guess I was pushing it a bit with the entry.
"So what can ya do?", I guess pretend that this is Bokeh IV next time instead of Shallow DOF.
EDIT: By the way Bear, terrific shot!
Message edited by author 2007-02-07 14:56:54. |
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02/07/2007 02:58:55 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Just to give you an idea how subjective the concept is, look at this image:
Here's two comments from the challenge:
1. "not shallow.. shallow means LOTS of blur that highlights the subject very clearly, usually from very close range"
2. "Nicely done, though I think just a little more DOF (to give more detail to the background) would make it even better."
So what can ya do?
R. |
Never 'Not shallow' IMO.
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02/07/2007 03:17:50 PM · #13 |
| Im pretty sure i know what shallow dof is and you scored better than i did. Then again, mine was "kinda more like a portrait shot" ;) |
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02/07/2007 03:26:35 PM · #14 |
DOF is just a tool in making an image. It can be too shallow or too deep for the subject chosen and as Bear has pointed out it depends on who's viewing the image.
I love shape and definition to connect a subject to its surroundings. |
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