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06/22/2007 12:31:00 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by SamDoe1:
That and only 3 AF points? Lame... haha, long live Canon! |
My Cross BASIS AF Sensor'd EOS-1 35mm versus your 7 point AF Sensor'd 350D right now lol.
Im kidding, yeah it was a great sensor one time lol. |
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06/22/2007 12:33:44 AM · #27 |
Actually the d40 wins out as far as noise is concerned. Don't get so upset over it, I'm a canon fan as well.
surfdabber: I mostly like building furniture. I built a few things around my house like a coffee table, etc. This summer I'm hoping to build a playhouse for the backyard for the children. |
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06/22/2007 12:43:32 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by SamDoe1:
And most third party Nikon lenses will not work because most rely on that internal focus motor which isn't there on the d40. It'll work if you use the Sigma HSM lenses, but no Tamron or Tokina. |
[Edit - Post removed because I was totally wrong... :) SamDoe is correct about 3rd party non-HSM lenses for Nikon mount.]
Message edited by author 2007-06-22 20:21:57. |
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06/22/2007 12:43:35 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by Atropos:
Actually the d40 wins out as far as noise is concerned. Don't get so upset over it, I'm a canon fan as well.
surfdabber: I mostly like building furniture. I built a few things around my house like a coffee table, etc. This summer I'm hoping to build a playhouse for the backyard for the children. |
Well put them up side by side. There isnt enough difference to cry about
Nikon D40 - vs - Canon 350D @ 1600
 
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06/22/2007 01:03:11 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by Atropos:
For me, the d40 wins out in quality (though only by a very small amount compared to the canon) according to all the 100% crop sample images I looked at. The 350d wins in convinience since the d40 kit can't even autofocus out of the box. And also more future proof.
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I didnt notice if anyone replied to this, but with the D40 kit you CAN autofocus, since the kit lens is an autofocus lens.
Im pretty happy with my d40, but then again ive never owned another dslr.
It tends to overexpose a bit (i found many other agreeing with this when i did a google search) and i often step down the exposure to -.3 or -.7 |
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06/22/2007 01:18:51 AM · #31 |
Looking at those 100% crops, see how much more detail the 350D picks out in the hair! Directly comparing flat area noise at 100% crop is a little meaningless when comparing different MPx cameras. :)
But yes, any of these cameras are going to do a pretty good job with noise. Whatever you choose is going to keep you happy. ISO 1600 looks better than ISO100 on my old P&S. :)
And hey, when did they bring out the D40X? I missed that one, and only discovered it just now!
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06/22/2007 09:24:12 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by surfdabbler:
This is a common misunderstanding. HSM is one sort of motor in the lens. However, there are non-HSM lenses which have standard micromotors in the lens, so these will still work on the D40, even if they are not HSM.
Nikon have 3 types of lenses. With fast motor (AF-S), with slow motor (AF-I), or with no motor.
The canon world only has 2. With fast motor (Canon USM or Sigma HSM) or with slow motor (all non HSM/USM lenses). No Canon mounts have motors in the body, so all 3rd party lenses are designed with internal motors. What this means for Nikon, I believe, is that all 3rd party lenses are equivalent to either AF-S or AF-I, depending on what type of motor they have. 3rd party lenses are just not designed for the no-motor option, because then they couldn't be used on Canons. |
That's not true. If you go onto photozone and read some reviews on the third party Nikon lenses, you'll see that the AF of all of the non-HSM (or whatever) lenses are driven by the drive motor in the body. This includes the Tamron 28-75mm for Nikon which I KNOW has an internal motor for the Canon mount. Go check it out.
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06/22/2007 07:23:35 PM · #33 |
Hmm, very interesting. Thanks for pointing this out. I'll check into it some more.
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06/22/2007 08:18:52 PM · #34 |
Yes, I stand corrected. 3rd party non-HSM lenses for Nikon mount seem to make use of the nikon body motor, so they won't work on the D40.
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06/22/2007 08:30:24 PM · #35 |
So today I tried out both the rebel xt and nikon d40. Not performance wise but just to hold them and take a few snapshots without a memory card.
I can't stand holding the rebel xt. The grip is just... odd. The D40 felt very nice, though. But, if there are alot of good lenses that I wouldn't be able to use, well.. I don't want to limit myself. I eventually just want one good wide angle lens, one for middle of the road and one for telephoto. Preferably one of them would have good macro capabilities. Surely I could find those three with which the autofocus on the d40 would work, and good quality to boot. Or maybe not, I don't know.
So alas, after all that, I'm back to square one.
Maybe I should put a bunch of camera model names in a hat or something. |
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06/22/2007 08:32:38 PM · #36 |
There are plenty of great lenses that will work quite well on the D40, you just have to be willing to pay for them. The 350D isn't the most comfortable camera to hold but from experience, you get used to it pretty fast. And if it's that bad, you can always add a camera grip to improve your battery life and better the grip.
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06/22/2007 08:35:13 PM · #37 |
| Olympus E 500. I did a lot of research and comparison. This is a lot of camera for the money...especially with the two-lens kit. |
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06/22/2007 08:41:17 PM · #38 |
I hope the e-500 isn't the OlympusI held that had like... no grip, just a flat surface. Is it?
One of them was comfy but a bit big for my tastes, the lower end model was nice and small but I felt like I was holding a point and shoot with a really big lens.
The salesman told me that pentax has the best kit lenses and best lens selection hands down. He also told me Olympus is the company that's getting all the critical acclaim lately for dslr's. He kinda seemed to have a hate-on for Canon and Nikon.
If he wasn't lying about being a professional photographer for 25 years I might believe him. He is a salesman so maybe he's full of crap and just wanted me to buy something.
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06/22/2007 08:56:22 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by Atropos:
I hope the e-500 isn't the OlympusI held that had like... no grip, just a flat surface. Is it?
One of them was comfy but a bit big for my tastes, the lower end model was nice and small but I felt like I was holding a point and shoot with a really big lens.
The salesman told me that pentax has the best kit lenses and best lens selection hands down. He also told me Olympus is the company that's getting all the critical acclaim lately for dslr's. He kinda seemed to have a hate-on for Canon and Nikon.
If he wasn't lying about being a professional photographer for 25 years I might believe him. He is a salesman so maybe he's full of crap and just wanted me to buy something. |
I have larger hands and I find the E 500 very comfortable. It's a good size but it is substantially lighter than a Nikon or a Canon. |
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06/22/2007 09:06:33 PM · #40 |
| I dont like light camera's. There's a certain amount of counterweight that helps hold the camera still. But there is such thing as too much. |
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06/22/2007 09:12:06 PM · #41 |
| I agree about camera weight. The E500 is a little too light, unless I'm shooting with the longer lens. It balances nicely with the heavier glass on it. |
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06/22/2007 09:14:48 PM · #42 |
Asking what is the best low-end DSLR is a lot like asking what is the best high-end DSLR? There is no one answer. The answer is, "it depends on what your intended use is."
It might be more germane to debate which low-end DSLR represents the best value, but even then, the value of certain features depends on end use. |
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06/22/2007 09:22:31 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Asking what is the best low-end DSLR is a lot like asking what is the best high-end DSLR? There is no one answer. The answer is, "it depends on what your intended use is."
It might be more germane to debate which low-end DSLR represents the best value, but even then, the value of certain features depends on end use. |
What I wanted was peoples opinions on cameras they own or have owned since reviews never tell you what it's really like for the end user. The more information I get, the better, since I'm not satisfied buying a camera to see whether I like it or not, and then wishing I had got something else.
Maybe I'll become a camera reviewer for a couple of weeks to try them all out. Joe Everyguy Reviews--theres an idea. |
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06/22/2007 09:37:19 PM · #44 |
I like the d40. Will i keep it forever? of course not. Its my first dSLR and I wanted something to learn on. ALL the lenses that work on any Digital nikon will work on the D40, but some you'll lose metering and others you'll lose autofocus. The IX lenses won't work because they extend into the body, but i believe they won't work on any of the digital bodies.
Manual focus for me with some lenses might mean more misses or bad shots, but its forcing me to learn and get that eye for whats focused and whats not. Its actually helping me get sharper pictures. You could get the same results by switching a canon lense to manual, but I just prefer nikon.
All in all, the camera is only part of the equation. The photographer plays a greater part in how your photos look at the end result than any camera body you choose will, you'll just have different options with each. |
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06/22/2007 09:49:01 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by lesgainous:
I heard the D40 doesn't have the mirror lock-up feature; nor does it have a status screen--you have to use the power-sucking LCD sceeen just for status. |
Yes, you have to use the LCD screen. However, the battery lasts a lifetime! Even if you look at the screen before each shot to adjust settings and after each shot to review the image, the battery will last for hundreds of shots (upwards of 5-600, at least).
Battery life is not a problem on the D40. |
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06/22/2007 10:23:38 PM · #46 |
| status as far as what? iso? aperture and shutter speed settings? there all in the viewfinder as well, not just the lcd. |
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06/22/2007 10:44:15 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Asking what is the best low-end DSLR is a lot like asking what is the best high-end DSLR? There is no one answer. The answer is, "it depends on what your intended use is."
It might be more germane to debate which low-end DSLR represents the best value, but even then, the value of certain features depends on end use. |
Actually the answer to the high end DLSR has recently been answered.
1DMKIII :-)
MattO
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06/23/2007 12:36:01 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by Atropos:
What I wanted was peoples opinions on cameras they own or have owned since reviews never tell you what it's really like for the end user. The more information I get, the better, since I'm not satisfied buying a camera to see whether I like it or not, and then wishing I had got something else. |
Have you been reading the user reviews on DPReview? You'll probably get the information you seek there from people that actually own the cams you're interested in buying.
Incidentally, I did a quick comparison of weight and size for the Olympus E-500 and Nikon D40 and found they are practically identical for those categories. They both weigh 1.0 lb without battery, give or take a few grams, and their sizes are nearly identical.
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06/23/2007 12:45:25 AM · #49 |
I Have the SONY A100 and am really pleased. it takes all tyhe KM lens range and there is a new range coming out from carl ziess its a great camrea with excekkent images I have no problem with low light shots
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06/23/2007 10:38:38 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
Have you been reading the user reviews on DPReview? You'll probably get the information you seek there from people that actually own the cams you're interested in buying.
Incidentally, I did a quick comparison of weight and size for the Olympus E-500 and Nikon D40 and found they are practically identical for those categories. They both weigh 1.0 lb without battery, give or take a few grams, and their sizes are nearly identical. |
I've read technical reviews and user reviews and everything. I trust people's opinions more here, though. |
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