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Religion - one of the most destructive forces in the world
Religion - one of the most destructive forces in the world

Photograph Information Photographer's Comments
Challenge: Darkness (Basic Editing III)
Camera: Canon EOS-20D
Lens: Sigma 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 Compact Hyperzoom Aspherical for Canon
Location: London - Little Venice
Date: Jun 11, 2005
Aperture: F/5.6
ISO: 200
Shutter: 1/2000
Galleries: Architecture, Black and White
Date Uploaded: Jun 11, 2005

Shooting Date/Time
11.6.2005 17:13:45
Shooting Mode
Manual Exposure
Tv( Shutter Speed )
Av( Aperture Value )
ISO Speed
28.0 - 200.0 mm
Focal Length
132.0 mm

Post editing:
Auto Levels
Unsharp Mask

Place: 279 out of 373
Avg (all users): 4.4774
Avg (commenters): 5.3871
Avg (participants): 4.4552
Avg (non-participants): 4.4943
Views since voting: 731
Views during voting: 418
Votes: 310
Comments: 33
Favorites: 0

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06/23/2005 03:46:58 PM
Thanks to all who commented, really appreciated and really needed! I know this photo wasn't as interesting as I would have liked, but my first "subject" really didn't work so I settled for this one as a representation of what darkness means to me (and no, not everyone has to agree with me on this point). I just bought a Canon EOS-20D and this was my first submission so hopefully I'll get better, practise makes perfect an all that!
 Comments Made During the Challenge
06/21/2005 03:05:11 PM
yep, it is.
06/21/2005 03:01:20 PM
I don't completely agree with your title/statement but I do like the image nevertheless.
06/21/2005 02:11:28 PM
Curious... did you feel it necessary to insult all believers just to fit challenge theme or are you just an opportunist?
06/21/2005 01:21:08 PM
I couldn't agree more...
06/21/2005 11:18:37 AM
A poor selection for a title. I'm sure you will get many comments.
06/21/2005 10:49:04 AM

Technically, I see a few issues. Pretty evident haloing around the steeple and cross. It seems the picture quality is a bit low, with the steeple and cross not being very clearly edged and just a general lack of detail. I like the composition, although I might have preferred the cross at a slightly more "straight on" angle.

As far as the message of the photo , [climbing up on soapbox] There certainly is a side to "religion" that can be considered dark. It does seem like Christianity takes a lot of abuse...as you don't see the icons, holy items or sacred words of other religions singled out as often for negativity.... and if it does happen there's usually an uproar about being non tolerant of other faiths. A lot of good has been done in the name of religion as well. Anytime you get folks feeling very strongly one way or another about an issue, you will see extremes in actions as well. Even Jesus pointed out how dangerous it is to focus on the "doing" of religion, vs. actually living a life of faith. [stepping down from soapbox]

I would not have used this message, but I understand it. Although I am a Christian, be assured that I have not lowered your score because of it.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
06/21/2005 03:22:02 AM
The title of this picture sounds very destructive
06/20/2005 08:45:17 PM
I don't agree, but to each his own. I thought the picture needed more subject or perhaps it could have been cropped a bit more.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
06/19/2005 05:58:11 PM
agreed on that one. good pic too.
06/19/2005 05:47:31 PM
Whilst the title is evocative, the photo doesn't carry on the sentiment. A slight clockwise rotate to straighten up the verticals would have helped.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
06/19/2005 03:36:31 PM
i understand the concept of religion as the darkness but the picture itself seems neither dark, nor very interesting...
  Photographer found comment helpful.
06/19/2005 12:49:28 AM
Bet you're getting hammered! I understand your point, but your execution of it is not as strong as it might have been in my view. This scene is too sparse to have much interest for the viewer. Sure there's the "dark spire and heavens" metaphor, but it's a bit thin. There are much richer and darker images of religion available that might have made your point with more force. But you do get marks for bravery. 6
  Photographer found comment helpful.
06/18/2005 08:50:06 PM
Not very appealing. If you are talking about destructive forces... maybe you should have waited for a storm so that the clouds can be forboding and evil to push the image in that direction, rather than relying on the title.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
06/18/2005 04:33:32 AM
One of the great ironies isn't it. Love your fellow man but kill him if he follows another religion. It's going to be real interesting to see how this scores. I hope your title doesn't hurt the votes you are recieving.
06/17/2005 02:28:32 PM
Unclear and the political title doesn't help.
06/17/2005 12:51:21 PM
I really like your caption for this photo, as it's very true. Like the photo too.
06/17/2005 12:17:33 PM
To hell with the picture, I gave you a 10 for the title. Art is about free expression with the caveat that one must consider the best interest of their models if photographing people IMHO. In this case I say way to go. The challenge said what does darkness mean to you (the artist).
06/17/2005 04:45:56 AM
I think this has the potential for a good image, but in this case, focus seems a little off and the sky is pretty bland to me. Perhaps some post processing could help the cause. I do think the border you've used in this case is complimentary to the photo.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
06/16/2005 10:28:25 PM
I dont think you can pass religion off as being dark or destructive because its really a matter of opinion, not a matter of fact.
06/16/2005 09:17:43 PM
I admire your bravely (I am sure you get a lot of flame for your title) however I don't really agree with your title. However, theosophy aside, the image itself does not really communicate darkness or threat, IMO. The subject is too small, and the sky is rather bland. I can imagine that a cross can be shot in a scary manner, but it would have to be done quite differently.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
06/16/2005 07:52:33 PM
I'm sure you'll be ticking the fanatics off with that title!!!! Nice border, well composed. Bumping to 10 to help off-set those type.
06/16/2005 03:03:47 PM
I can see a lot of people getting upset by the title and the interpretation of darkness. I, on the other hand, like this photo and the interpretation and give it a 7.
06/16/2005 10:17:11 AM
I like your title!!
06/16/2005 09:28:17 AM

Message edited by author 2008-03-27 00:42:14.
06/16/2005 12:41:52 AM
Creative way to meet the challenge. The picture lacks interest, though.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
06/15/2005 02:42:40 PM
I'm giving this one a high score because the title really does it for me. Takes guts to say that out loud. I also like the silhouette against the light cloud. The halo is a little distracting to me, and I wonder how it would have looked as a vertical image with more of the steeple showing?
  Photographer found comment helpful.
06/15/2005 02:37:12 PM
A bit oversharpened.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
06/15/2005 09:24:19 AM
I don't get it.
06/15/2005 08:13:54 AM
I do not see religion as destructive at all, but I am not going to count that against you.
06/15/2005 04:40:39 AM
The number one most destructive force is mortal man ... he even tries to destroy what God created by turning a relationship into a religion. 10
06/15/2005 03:34:03 AM
only to those weak willed ;)
06/15/2005 12:34:40 AM
true, true. GL

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