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Challenge: Single Light Source II (Advanced Editing IV*)
Camera: Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT
Lens: Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM
Location: Home
Date: May 30, 2006
Aperture: 25
ISO: 100
Shutter: 13 Sec
Galleries: Emotive, Studio
Date Uploaded: May 30, 2006

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Statistics
Place: 188 out of 238
Avg (all users): 4.7720
Avg (commenters): 5.2857
Avg (participants): 4.6757
Avg (non-participants): 4.8125
Views since voting: 1227
Views during voting: 342
Votes: 250
Comments: 25
Favorites: 0


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06/19/2006 01:48:17 PM
Hello from Ãlex, CTP MkII

First Impression: very clever idea but IMO the realization could be improved
Composition: good, in this case the centered composition works well
Subject: very good concept for the challenge, with an original idea
Technical: the main flaw IMO is technical. If you had achieved a good silhouette, this shoot will deserved a very high score.
Improvement: a better lighting to make the silhouette more perfect
Summary: very intelligent idea.

Ãlex
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06/19/2006 04:32:54 AM
CPTII

Actually, the shot looks better the longer you stare at it.
It was a great idea, albeit not very obvious e.g. the low DNMC scores.
The subject was, honestly, still a bit too dark. A 30-second expsure with a 1-second exposure for the light would've looked better, I think.
Just a suggestion, though.
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06/15/2006 10:19:20 AM
CTP2 Gunnsi
First impression:

To bright light and to dark head.
What can you do better?
decrease the light in the front and increase the light on the head from the back making a better shilouette.
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06/13/2006 07:55:47 AM
Hi from Cpt2!

I really like this idea, it's very creative. I just think its a bit dark...
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06/12/2006 03:23:38 AM
Greetings from CTP2

Cool concept although for me the execution didn't quite make it. I really think you needed a much stronger backlight to make your subject glow around the edges kinda like how the hair is but all over. That would give your subject more presence in the frame as well as give a stronger impression that she is radiating with enlightenment beyond just the flare. However, after reading your setup I'm not sure how you would accomplish that while keeping the spot light you capture in the shot that small.

Really the only issue for me is the subject is just too dark. I think you need to go either full blown silhouette in which case you need more contrast from the background or show more features on the subject using a fill light of some sort.
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06/09/2006 06:13:31 PM
Hi from the Critique Club.

Please feel free to PM me with any comments or questions.

First impression: What is it? A second look reveals the outline of a person but still leaves me wondering about the bright light in the center of the frame.

Technicals: Hard for me to comment without your comments, but after reading them i would have to agree with karma regarding some letting some light spill back onto the models face. As a whole the picture is too dark for my taste but i certainly admire your creativity. A little more light to backlight the top of the models head would have been good to better define the model's shape.

Composition: The square crop with the centered light works well so i feel you made a good choice in that regard.

This is one of those entries where your creative thought process and implementation was lost on a majority of the voters. At least that is my suspicion. Out of the box thinking and you are to be commended. Knowing the details, it is easy to see how it met the challenge but most, myself included, would have probably suspected more than one light source.

I like your stuff and you have had some very nice pics. dont let the end result be discouraging(i'm sure you won't)

Keep shooting,

mark
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06/07/2006 09:32:43 PM
Hi Shailesh!

I definitely think you suffered from the problem that truth and perception are not one in the same. Without knowing how this was done, it does look like at least two light sources. Knowing after the fact how it was done, it's truly ingenious, but we don't know that during voting.

As a photograph in general, some things I would do are to let the model's hair down to spill over her shoulders, put her in a black shirt to match the background, and add a reflector in front to reflect light onto her face and hands. I'd love to see the serene meditative expression on her face, and her mudhras currently are lost in the dark.
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06/07/2006 03:55:39 PM
Just read the "How I did it"...WOW!
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06/07/2006 10:44:23 AM
I think this image also could have suffered from "voter-monitor-calibration-syndrome" Not all monitors are calibrated equally and dark images often suffer. I just looked at this on a work monitor and it is so dark I can hardly make out the person. The spot of light seems very bright.
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06/07/2006 09:33:52 AM
Hi shaileshivyas

I think this was a well executed shot technically and shows that you have the technique 100% covered.

The low vote may have something more to do with the image itself rather than the DNMC element. The question that's worth asking is âwould I have entered this image into a different challenge?â In other words, how strong do you feel the image is?

For me the subject is difficult to make out (I do have a calibrated monitor) and the 'meaning' is unclear. Some reflectors close to the lens would have thrown light back onto the model and given her more definition. A title something like 'The Inner Light' may have helped voters engage with the image more.

This is offered as constructive and I hope you don't take offence at my comments.
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06/07/2006 08:33:29 AM
That's so neat.
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
06/06/2006 06:53:41 PM
Double exposure? Cool.
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06/06/2006 05:44:21 PM
This looks like their are multiple light sources. Also the sphere of light, i think would look better if it were more diffuse.
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06/04/2006 10:03:07 PM
Almost did not see the whole image, until my eyes became used to the light, maybe more ambience in the remainder behind the light would have helped....7
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06/02/2006 07:48:14 PM
It's quite ominous, good job.
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06/02/2006 05:13:16 PM
that is very odd
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06/02/2006 04:17:28 PM
Interesting image
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06/02/2006 12:02:31 PM
can't see what is going on here
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06/02/2006 09:13:25 AM
Very creative even though I'm trying to figure out how the light can be both in front and behind. I have my theory, look forward to reading your comments
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06/02/2006 12:33:20 AM
I may be missing something, but I'm counting at least two light sources here, since I don't see how whatever is backlighting the model can also be reflecting off the mirror pasted on the model's chest (since I'm assuming that's how the spot was created)?
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05/31/2006 07:45:08 PM
Interesting concept.
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05/31/2006 06:43:52 PM
how did you do that?
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05/31/2006 05:52:14 PM
that is a really neat idea!
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05/31/2006 02:11:02 PM
How did you mange the backlighting with the light in front of the model??? Unless the model really has a hole in the chest!
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05/31/2006 04:41:05 AM
not sure how you could have done this with a single light source. It appears you have a light on the front of the model as well as backlighting that comes from behind the head
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