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One year later - "Why is daddy still gone?"
One year later - "Why is daddy still gone?"
timfythetoo


Photograph Information Photographer's Comments
Challenge: Desolation II (Advanced Editing IV)
Camera: Canon EOS-300D Rebel
Lens: Sigma 18-125mm f/3.5-5.6 DC for Canon
Location: Columbus
Date: Jun 15, 2006
Aperture: 4.3
ISO: 200
Shutter: 1/500
Galleries: Family, Emotive
Date Uploaded: Jun 15, 2006

 First things first - I have not been dead a year or aday for that matter. When this challenge came up this was the first thing that came to mind. Not sure why but it did.

Took my family to a local cemetary that I had scoped out earlier. My wife wore a long black hooded coat and had my son dressed in his wedding best. It is so hard to get a 3.5 year old to pose this way and have him not move - "put your feet together, look down, put your hand down, put your feet together, look down, etc." Popped off a bunch of shots at a couple of headstones. This one had the pose I was basically looking for. He is holding a watch of mine in hopes that it would convey him grasping onto something of his fathers. Hope it can be seen.

POst process - levels, alot of burning and dodging (1 pixel brush size burning on watch band), minor cloning, alot of sat/desat, color variations, crop, unsharpen mask, light film grain, border resize. I was shooting for a Tim Burton kind of feel to this shot.

Come on guys - give me another 6.

Statistics
Place: 62 out of 197
Avg (all users): 5.8519
Avg (commenters): 7.3077
Avg (participants): 5.6786
Avg (non-participants): 5.9905
Views since voting: 1239
Views during voting: 316
Votes: 189
Comments: 25
Favorites: 0

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 07/09/2006 04:04:10 PM
I really like the atmosphere this conjures up, especially in the context of the challenge title.
I don't like the centredness of the boy, especially as it isn't exactly centred, but certainly not far enough from the centre to be on a third.
The watch is a subtle addition - I don't know whether I personally would be observant enough to notice straightaway, but thats not to mean it doesn't (even subconciously) add to the composition/atmosphere.
I also find the partial name distracting - I don't know whether it would be better with the full name, or a more common name like "Smith"
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 07/02/2006 10:56:51 PM
hello again,

i really liked this photo. you do great work.

only thing i can think of.... unsure it would be better.... is ifn you could see the hair of the woman standing with him. i know that sounds odd.... but i wanna see that she has a head. i am unsure how much it would need to include but i think it would have been a better crop ifn i could see her head a bit.
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 07/02/2006 07:23:48 AM
Trading Post

I like the composition and colors. Certainly meets the challenge too. I read your comments...your son and wife are gems to participate this way. I would have scored this a 7 or 8. A simple, yet effective photo. Plenty of emotional impact (although I did not get the watch). Well done.
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 06/27/2006 05:58:16 PM
Trading post...
I gave you a 9 in voting on this one. It's technically very well done. I think what hurt your score is the discussion that went on in the forums about using children for these types of shots. Because your son knows his daddy I'm sure there is NOTHING wrong with this! My husband and kids are well used to mugging for the camera!
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 06/26/2006 09:05:50 PM
Trading Post comment

I think you executed this very well. The technicals are extremely good - lots of stuff I'd never think of to do to a picture, and it all hangs together well and doesn't look processed (that's the trick, I think.) My favorite part of the composition is not the watch, it's your wife's foot for some odd reason. I like the slight lighter section of the headstone near the boy's head, too. All told, this should well have been a 6 score, but I suspect the "does not meet challenge" came into play here. Maybe more "grief" or "sadness" than "desolation". On an unrelated to score note, I do wonder about setting up children for shots like this - isn't that a bit weird? Hopefully he understands it's just because his daddy has this obsession... :-) (Sue me, I can't type or spell...)

Message edited by author 2006-06-26 21:07:38.
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 06/26/2006 06:34:18 PM
I like the idea. But maybe a pocket watch would have been easier to see and would have conveyed the meaning.

I was bothered with the partial name as well, but I could get over it.
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 06/26/2006 05:20:47 PM
I'll only briefly comment as I know you know what you are doing and a 5.8 isn't a bad score. BTW, take a look at my image grain entry. Great minds must think alike.

The first beef, and it's small, is that I have no idea what he's holding in his hand. It's even worse because it's smack dab in the center of the picture and we puzzle over the object more than we take in the desolation of the picture.

I also don't quite like the way the word doesn't make sense. "apham"? We also puzzle about what name ends with "apham".

Those are small though. Just off the top of my head.
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 06/26/2006 02:39:53 PM
I missed the watch. Sorry! I thought you did a very nice job with composing the picture to included just enough of the mother for context with the focus still being on the young boy. Good, original thought for this challenge.
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 06/26/2006 07:17:41 AM
ahh.. I missed the watch while voting!
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
06/24/2006 08:47:26 PM
a very good photo to depict this word, nice choice and giving that sense and a sense of sadness, it really would make an impact if the watch that the boy was holding, i assume daddy`s watch, was more in focus, all in all a very nice job, thank you for sharing this special sad moment.
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 06/24/2006 01:32:45 PM
Meets the challange, nicely photographed.
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 06/23/2006 11:07:22 AM
nice!
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 06/23/2006 07:24:52 AM
I saw this in my pass through the voting and decided not to vote on it. Technically, this image is great. Every detail down to the watch is well thought out and executed. But (don't you hate that?) Desolation for me implies a sense of space and time. This image gives me neither in anything except the title. I understand the connection with lonely and wanting but its not the same in desolation. See, that's why I stopped voting. :) Disconsolate, lonely, sad, much better challenge topic for this. At any rate, I was going to give you a six - 4 for techs, 2 for emotion, 0 for challenge topic. In another challenge, at least 7 or 8. As I said before, the technicals are excellent. The only thing I can figure is you are getting hit by people who believe, like I do, that desolation requires a sense of time and space. Let me know if that made sense or if you have any questions. I decided to vote on this challenge. Your image has been given a 7. I added 1 for challenge topic as there are more than a few whom met the challenge topic less well than this. Hope that made sense. :)
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 06/23/2006 06:56:56 AM
A sad image but so cute with the little boys braces.
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 06/22/2006 07:29:51 PM
Hey c,mon... Now I WILL cry.. Love the colors, hope it is not a true scene :o(
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 06/22/2006 01:43:13 PM
My first post on the forum - Wee bit of a tear in the corner of my eye there... The editing lasso lines, stamping, dodging and curves really stand out all over this image but you definitely nailed the spirit of the challenge. This particular daddy was deeply moved.
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 06/20/2006 02:00:18 PM
aawww. this makes me sad. great emotive.
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 06/20/2006 01:21:03 PM
Nicely done.
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 06/20/2006 12:28:33 AM
strong emotive picture
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 06/19/2006 10:15:14 PM
This photo is so emotive and sad. Yes. . .my heart feels desolate even looking at this one. But you did a great job depicting the theme. And I love your composition where you can only see a small part of the mom. Very nice work!
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 06/19/2006 07:10:58 PM
This is an amazingly touching image. Evokes emotion in the viewer.9
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 06/19/2006 06:48:53 PM
Beautiful colors, perfect fit for challenge...only thing I might have changed is it looks like the shirt may be just a tad overexposed.
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 06/19/2006 02:59:13 PM
Well, this is one of the best yet. Love your attention to details (especially the watch the little boy is holding!). Great composition, very well done.
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 06/19/2006 02:22:36 PM
Sorry, but I am not convinced of Desolation.

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 06/19/2006 02:23:57 AM
Love the green all around...sad mood here, but shot well for the challenge
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