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Looking from the Inside Out
Looking from the Inside Out
mchalmers


Photograph Information Photographer's Comments
Challenge: Inside Out (Basic Editing)
Camera: Nikon D90
Lens: Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D
Location: Dining Room
Date: Oct 14, 2008
Aperture: F/10
ISO: 640
Shutter: 1/5 sec.
Galleries: Humorous, Animals
Date Uploaded: Oct 14, 2008

 A bit of a frustrating challenge for me.

I had been planning this shot all week, but was only able to execute it about an hour before the deadline... Which explains the terrible background.

OK, to put this to rest: This is completely legal in Basic. A cutout of the kitten is inside the fish bowl. A cutout of the fish is on a pane of glass which is just in front of the camera. Trying to light both cutouts through two peices of glass was incredibly difficult in Basic. I was really hoping to have the background blown out, but this was the only lighting I could get to not show reflections on the glass. Argh.

PLEASE voters, let Site Council do their jobs. If you think something is illegal, bring it to the Council's attention, but don't vote it down just because you don't understand how it's done.

Edit: This photo is still under review for a possible DQ from Site Council. Apparently the rules about photos as subjects in an image became more strict at some point, and this photo may or may not have crossed the line. Guess we'll wait and see what happens!

Edit: 03/11/2008
This photo was validated at approx. 9am today.

Statistics
Place: 18 out of 114
Avg (all users): 5.8557
Avg (commenters): 6.2609
Avg (participants): 5.3902
Avg (non-participants): 5.9750
Views since voting: 2535
Views during voting: 491
Votes: 201
Comments: 39
Favorites: 3 (view)

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 10/24/2008 06:04:35 PM
Great photo Mark. I never understood the picture of art rule that seems to be selectively enforced. I believe this restriction is a bit hypocritical.. Unless it includes buildings, statues (Ones of an Icelandic boat comes to mind) and other forms albiet practical forms of art.... Keep shooting. You have a real talent.

Message edited by author 2008-10-24 19:39:33.
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 10/23/2008 10:20:53 PM
I liked this, it's very cleverly done. Of course, I figured the kitten was actually inside the bowl and the fish was a cutout.. at least I was half right. ;-)
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 10/22/2008 12:54:20 PM
Very creative idea for this challenge, nice humor to it too.

As for your lighting concern that you would get too much glare/reflection in your attempt to blow out the background - it looks like your subject was fairly close to your background, and perhaps moving the background much farther back and lighting it separately with a flash would avoid the issue of reflection, or at least make it more manageable. I'm guessing, no expert advice - I've been reading up on lighting lately and that's what comes to mind when reading of your difficulty.
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 10/22/2008 12:13:52 PM
lol
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 10/22/2008 07:47:29 AM
Very creative! I'd like to think no one voted this down because they thought it was illegal but I'm sure they did!
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 10/22/2008 06:03:24 AM
Goodness, I'm surprised so many people assumed illegality here. It's a cute and clever use of cutouts but hardly difficult to spot/ work out! Sorry you were voted down for it!
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 10/22/2008 01:09:25 AM
This would be a perfect setup with advanced rules. It's sooo cute!
Something was bothering me about the cat's feet and I finally figured out that it was because they cast no shadows, making the gravel really neon-y. In advanced you could touch that up in a moment. Would LOVE to see a re-edit now that rule restraints are off... please? :)
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 10/22/2008 12:43:17 AM
I gave this a 9 for creativity, and the fact that it meets the challenge...Sorry to see that you were down voted because the skeptics didn't vote on the photography and the creativity, the comments are saying you would be DQ'd, I hope this is a lesson to all those with egg on their face.

Message edited by author 2008-10-22 00:49:31.
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 10/22/2008 12:15:48 AM
Great job, except the BG of course... Reading the comments is sort of depressing, this PARADE of people assuming it's illegal, and one even TELLING you he's refrained from voting because he's not sure it's illegal and doesn't want to vote you down unfairly... WTF? Like you say, just vote the image and let SC do its job....

Fine work :-)
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
10/21/2008 10:23:26 PM
lol. great trick. but would be better with a natural setting rather than the cheesy wrinkled backdrop
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 10/21/2008 08:12:34 PM
very nice, although I find the backdrop a little distracting. wouldn't surprise me to see a ribbon...best of creativity!
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 10/21/2008 04:43:46 PM
Cute! I love the concept.
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 10/20/2008 10:04:51 PM
Um, very nice, but isn't it BASIC editing?
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 10/20/2008 04:13:42 PM
Perfect idea! Nice photo. Just the background is a litle distracting.
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 10/20/2008 09:43:33 AM
you are gonna get disqualified


or can you do that
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 10/20/2008 02:23:31 AM
umm... might be me, but this makes me question HOW you got this shot, cute concept but is it with in the rules?
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 10/19/2008 10:54:19 PM
I'm very interested to see how this was done. It would look nicer if you ironed the white sheet.
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 10/19/2008 01:36:23 AM
very cute but does not look like basic editing
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 10/18/2008 01:46:51 PM
Heheheh, cute use of cutouts! Creative! Maybe a shallower DOF would help lose the wrinkles in the backdrop but you could just run an iron over it before use!!
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 10/18/2008 07:37:47 AM
Not sure if this is legal but it is a great concept!
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 10/18/2008 06:50:16 AM
Is there a big tank in front of the bowl? I'm confused, but i like it! :-)
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 10/18/2008 04:34:37 AM
WoW! How did you get this done! 10. for creativity.
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 10/17/2008 05:50:12 PM
I love the idea, but the background is a bit distracting. A quick pass of an iron over the sheet and an extra light aimed at it to blow it out would clean up the background a lot! Still a very cute idea!
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 10/17/2008 02:15:30 PM
This may have been a contender based on the idea but unfortunatly the wrinkled background really hurts the shot. I would love to see this done again with a good back ground and the cats eyes looking more in the direction of the fish. Really creative, good luck in the challenge.
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 10/17/2008 11:14:31 AM
haha. the photoshopping is a little obvious though.
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 10/16/2008 08:54:52 PM
Very neat idea, and pulled off very well, especially in basic editing. Is the cat a cut out, too? I think the background here doesn't do the image any favours.
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 10/16/2008 08:03:20 PM
This is really cool!. Is that a cut out fish? As for the cat, it almost looks like he was copied and pasted from another image, I hope its a cut out too. I love this idea and the cat licking its mouth is priceless. The background does nothing for me, less wrinkles wouldve been good. and the shadows are really distracting, 5
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 10/16/2008 03:39:30 AM
Excellent challenge photo, have no idea how you achieved this...
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 10/15/2008 10:22:55 PM
Photoshop'd in the cat and fish?
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 10/15/2008 08:37:44 PM
the background is bad. with a good execution this could be a killer idea.
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 10/15/2008 07:27:19 PM
I foresee high marks for originality with this image. :) Unfortunately, I also foresee lower marks for execution. :(

On the plus side, the idea itself is wonderful. It certainly fits the subject of the challenge. On the minus side, the wrinkled cloth background and lighting do nothing to improve the image. A more natural setting for a fishbowl might have worked better. The kitten and fish both appear flat and unnatural, like cutouts.

I think I'll give this a 7 because I love the concept so much.
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 10/15/2008 06:29:56 PM
Think this violates the rules :(
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 10/15/2008 05:15:59 PM
Very clever, Great shot
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 10/15/2008 03:39:13 PM
great concept with potential to be even better. I've thought about using cutouts to get round basic editing but haven't made the effort yet.
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 10/15/2008 02:17:40 PM
Is this legal in basic editing??? Or, am I not understanding some "trick" to it? Are these photos of the cat and the fish that you've placed into the bowl and outside the bowl and shot it? (no score for now as while I'm skeptical, I also like it and don't want to mark it down because I'm suspicious....just want to be fair to you in my scoring)
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 10/15/2008 11:07:08 AM
Not to fond of the wrinkly background but this is a cute photo.
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 10/15/2008 09:05:22 AM
Brilliant idea - bet this would be a very high scoring image if it was advanced challenge...
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 10/15/2008 12:41:19 AM
haha this is great!
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 10/15/2008 12:30:02 AM
Very creative. Wish a more plain background...8
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