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08/26/2010 10:35:20 PM · #51
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by pointandshoot:

I think he intended using Nick's style as inspiration, not something to copy. Nick uses shadow/light, blur, perspective, crop, and processing as tools to create stories of mystery and ambiguity. His stories always have a punch line but he never gives it up.

Makes sense to me. I really don't think it is possible to completely emulate another person's style. The idea of it as inspiration or a jumping off point works for me. However, there is a certain look and not everything fits. A DRAchoo waterfall or a Lydiatoo frog would be clearly out of place in this challenge.


Where is that unsubmit button?
08/26/2010 11:20:38 PM · #52
Does mockery/parody count as "in the style of"?
08/27/2010 02:16:38 PM · #53
I'm in! I'm pleased enough with it that I don't mind how it does. It hope it wouldn't look out of place in my or Nixter's portfolio.

Mission accomplished!
08/27/2010 02:28:12 PM · #54
Question I have a pic but it only really works well in colour. Still hunting that elusive b&w that ivwoild be happy with as is Paul at the moment. Nick has many street colour pics but still feel b&w would be nicer to have for this challenge as this is where he really shines looking at his portf. Think a colour pic would be considered in the style of Nixter or not? I still recall the in the style of Heida challenge and don't want to make the same mistake as I have there.

Been dodging and diving sec guards and it's difficult. When they eye me. I just smile and move on.
08/27/2010 02:43:49 PM · #55
Sure - in fact the image that I got in the photo roulette thing that sparked this off was a colour image.
08/27/2010 02:53:34 PM · #56
I've already tried to copy Nixter. A great inspiration.

08/28/2010 11:33:34 AM · #57
Well I have an image completed for this challenge I rather like, but it's in color/colour and not really a street shot. Not ALL of Nick's fine portfolio images are B&W street shots and it happened to be one that wasn't that sparked my interest.
Yet, I am concerned that if I do enter my shot I will get get served a bunch of spiteful low votes from people who have decided shots for this challenge MUST all be blurry B&W street shots? I spent a lot of time creating my image yet I am reluctant now to even use it- nobody likes to hit the update button and see they are getting a bunch of low votes.
So if there are indeed people who think this gallery should not be color or only street shots please do speak up now. Unless you can tell me you will just skip voting on the shots that don't fit your interpretation of the topic rather than mark them down I will either shoot something else or just not enter this one and save myself some grief.

Thanks :-)
08/28/2010 11:43:08 AM · #58
Originally posted by Brent_S:


Yet, I am concerned that if I do enter my shot I will get get served a bunch of spiteful low votes from people who have decided shots for this challenge MUST all be blurry B&W street shots?


Nick's portfolio has many wonderful colour images in it. Shame on anybody who doesn't take the trouble to look through his portfolio beyond a cursory glance. Certainly would not get a low score from me if it is not a blurry B&W street shot:) (Of course, it would still need to be in Nick's style) I can understand your reluctance to risk it though.

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08/28/2010 11:51:18 AM · #59
Originally posted by RianBotes:

Question I have a pic but it only really works well in colour. Still hunting that elusive b&w that ivwoild be happy with as is Paul at the moment. Nick has many street colour pics but still feel b&w would be nicer to have for this challenge as this is where he really shines looking at his portf. Think a colour pic would be considered in the style of Nixter or not? I still recall the in the style of Heida challenge and don't want to make the same mistake as I have there.

Been dodging and diving sec guards and it's difficult. When they eye me. I just smile and move on.


I think color would be fine, but if you do that you should probably make it at least partially desaturated colors. Even when Nixter uses color in his photos he still keeps the tones muted. I think if you did that it would go over just fine with most voters.

Here's an example:

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08/28/2010 12:33:43 PM · #60
Thanks Sarah and Trevor for your thoughts :-) That's a cool shot you picked from Nick's portfolio Trevor!

I think my image is toast and it's my fault. I went through Nick's portfolio and zeroed in on one image that had an uncanny resemblance to a scene I knew of half a world away in my town. I spent a lot of time getting the capture just so and with the processing too. But what I have is a pretty good copy of an image he did that is all about color and a landscape to boot. It really to me stands out as being different than much of his portfolio (save for the processing maybe) even though it is his image and mine looks a lot like his.
I fear to even use it in the Freestudy instead thanks to an unfortunate thread going around about "calling out" images that copy another (I would get too emotional to even respond in that thread).

So I'm not sure I will do anything with what I have captured so far and don't know if I will get around to shooting for the topic again. But I enjoyed the practice of shooting and processing "through Nick's eyes" anyway :-)
08/28/2010 02:36:02 PM · #61
Don't let the thread scare you out of entering. There are many people even on the thread that understand the benefits of trying to recreate a shot by someone else. On top of that there are lots of people that vote and don't even read threads. :-)
08/28/2010 04:29:02 PM · #62
Here's a question... What time of day do you think Nixter' shoots his street photography?? In Mid afternoon high sun? Morning or evening golden hours?? Something in between that?? Just curious.
08/28/2010 04:32:36 PM · #63
Originally posted by EL-ROI:

Here's a question... What time of day do you think Nixter' shoots his street photography?? In Mid afternoon high sun? Morning or evening golden hours?? Something in between that?? Just curious.

All times, I think, however a lot of them can be identified as morning or evening golden hours because of the telltale long shadows.
08/28/2010 05:08:22 PM · #64
Brent - are you happy with your shot? (It sounds as if you are.) Did browsing Nick's portfolio inspire you to try something you'd not tried before, to look at something a bit differently, perhaps? Did you enjoy the process?

Enter the photograph.

I find that when I shoot for DPC - ie try to satisfy whatever it is the voters want - then do poorly, it really pisses me off. (Pardon my English.) But if I have shot for DPC in that I have satisfied MYSELF for the challenge - ie the challenge "challenged" me and I enjoyed the process and like the shot, and I enter it and it does poorly, I really do not mind at all.

So go for it if you're happy with it - if it is a shot you are proud to share. Even if it doesn't score well, it may resonate with a voter or two and THAT makes it all worthwhile.

Just my 2 cents worth. Your mileage may vary.
08/28/2010 05:10:28 PM · #65
I think Deb has hit the nail on the head there. So Brent, go for it.
08/28/2010 09:34:50 PM · #66
Originally posted by Brent_S:

Thanks Sarah and Trevor for your thoughts :-) That's a cool shot you picked from Nick's portfolio Trevor!

I think my image is toast and it's my fault. I went through Nick's portfolio and zeroed in on one image that had an uncanny resemblance to a scene I knew of half a world away in my town. I spent a lot of time getting the capture just so and with the processing too. But what I have is a pretty good copy of an image he did that is all about color and a landscape to boot. It really to me stands out as being different than much of his portfolio (save for the processing maybe) even though it is his image and mine looks a lot like his.
I fear to even use it in the Freestudy instead thanks to an unfortunate thread going around about "calling out" images that copy another (I would get too emotional to even respond in that thread).

So I'm not sure I will do anything with what I have captured so far and don't know if I will get around to shooting for the topic again. But I enjoyed the practice of shooting and processing "through Nick's eyes" anyway :-)


Hey, Brent! If you read through the "calling out" thread, you'll notice that the majority of people have no problem with trying to recreate or improve on a shot. The few that are for it have probably already been voting things down, so I don't see anything changing as a result of that thread. I understand your hesitation, but I think it's unnecessary. I myself am entering a photo in the free study that people may think is trite or overdone. But I haven't done it before, I enjoyed the opportunity and the process, and I like the picture -- so I'm entering it anyway. I expect some quite low votes, even though I think it's a good picture, but then I get troll votes on almost every shot of mine; so that's nothing new. :D

Listen to Deb; she's a wise woman. Satisfy yourself. Plus, I find when I'm afraid of entering something, and give into that fear, I spend the whole week wondering how it would have done and regretting the fact that I didn't enter it. I'd rather deal with a possible low score than the regret.
08/28/2010 11:34:51 PM · #67
Wow, such nice responses and good advise given in this thread- thanks you guys! :-)

Actually, I made a little time to go out and do some street shots this afternoon. I'm not sure I will go with any of them, but I just had some fun playing around with the processing on a couple. I expect most voters will accept a street shot for this challenge though Nick's portfolio contains much more variety, so I may shoot some more. I may do color instead of B&W as he really does plenty of both.

Most likely I will use the shot I already had for the Freestudy. I get plenty of low votes every time I do a landscape anyway. So I won't worry about it :-)
08/28/2010 11:43:49 PM · #68
Originally posted by Brent_S:

Most likely I will use the shot I already had for the Freestudy. I get plenty of low votes every time I do a landscape anyway. So I won't worry about it :-)




Oh, yes, horrible votes. Just horrible! :-)
08/29/2010 11:19:41 AM · #69
Oh that dusty old thing Melethia? *hides his head in embarrassment*
That was back in the old days (for my short time at DPC anyway) and it seems there are now some people voting at DPC who regard a landscape as just another repetition same as wine glasses, water drops, etc. I've actually seen them say that. More recently I have seen landscapes with ribbons, yet they have received some one and two votes. If people hate landscapes that much, it must be torture for them every time they step outside ;-)
ETA: I want to point out I don't low vote wine glasses and water drops either. They aren't my thing, but people have a right to post them. I vote them on their technical merit or just skip over them :-)

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08/30/2010 08:18:05 PM · #70
Hi, all... I'm pretty new around here (only participated in 3 challenges so far), and I've only just taken a serious look at this challenge in the last day, and tho I don't know if I'll be able to get a shot ready in time for submission, I have to say "Thank you!" to those that concocted this challenge. I've spent hours last night looking thru Nixter's galleries (and still going thru some!), and spent a few hours this afternoon shooting like crazy in my local downtown area (1900+ shots!), trying to pay attention to the things that I think I saw in Nixter's shots, compared to my own shots.

In a nutshell, it looked to me that Nixter has a fantastic sense of composition, with images filled with textures, light and shadow, and often a sense of motion. It's very cool stuff, and whether or not I ever come close, it has been a blast just attempting to see and capture images of things around me in a different way. As a beginner, this is the kind of challenge I needed to force myself to work on composition of an entire image, and not just some single thing that caught my eye.

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08/30/2010 08:43:32 PM · #71
Originally posted by zencow:

Hi, all... I'm pretty new around here (only participated in 3 challenges so far), and I've only just taken a serious look at this challenge in the last day, and tho I don't know if I'll be able to get a shot ready in time for submission, I have to say "Thank you!" to those that concocted this challenge. I've spent hours last night looking thru Nixter's galleries (and still going thru some!), and spent a few hours this afternoon shooting like crazy in my local downtown area (1900+ shots!), trying to pay attention to the things that I think I saw in Nixter's shots, compared to my own shots.

In a nutshell, it looked to me that Nixter has a fantastic sense of composition, with images filled with textures, light and shadow, and often a sense of motion. It's very cool stuff, and whether or not I ever come close, it has been a blast just attempting to see and capture images of things around me in a different way. As a beginner, this is the kind of challenge I needed to force myself to work on composition of an entire image, and not just some single thing that caught my eye.


Well, how about that! That's exactly how it's *supposed* to go! Welcome aboard!

R.
08/30/2010 10:07:21 PM · #72
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by zencow:

Hi, all... I'm pretty new around here (only participated in 3 challenges so far), and I've only just taken a serious look at this challenge in the last day, and tho I don't know if I'll be able to get a shot ready in time for submission, I have to say "Thank you!" to those that concocted this challenge. I've spent hours last night looking thru Nixter's galleries (and still going thru some!), and spent a few hours this afternoon shooting like crazy in my local downtown area (1900+ shots!), trying to pay attention to the things that I think I saw in Nixter's shots, compared to my own shots.

In a nutshell, it looked to me that Nixter has a fantastic sense of composition, with images filled with textures, light and shadow, and often a sense of motion. It's very cool stuff, and whether or not I ever come close, it has been a blast just attempting to see and capture images of things around me in a different way. As a beginner, this is the kind of challenge I needed to force myself to work on composition of an entire image, and not just some single thing that caught my eye.


Well, how about that! That's exactly how it's *supposed* to go! Welcome aboard!

R.

+1
(That's what the kids say these days, right?)
08/30/2010 10:12:15 PM · #73
Old broad. Thanks for the refreshing non-angst, non-combativeness, zencow. We're all too touchy around here for some reason.
08/30/2010 10:25:49 PM · #74
Got my own in. Not sure if it will be considered his style or not. I tried to take some of what I saw in his pics and apply it to my own. I even learned a new technique. It'll be an interesting challenge, even if it bombs.
08/30/2010 10:53:22 PM · #75
Thanks for the welcoming words! In the last couple/few hours, I've narrowed down my candidate shots from the 1,926 I shot (43GB!), down to 356... haha! many dupes, but I wanted to sort thru variations for ones with the desired look. I'm all pumped up, because I have 3 or 4 in there that I think are "great" among all the "good" candidates. A friend reminded me to go eat, so I'm off to dinner and then I'll come sort thru the color and B&W versions of all the shots (ok, so that doubles 356 to 712)... ;-P

With luck, I might start processing some of these tonight...

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