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07/03/2002 04:13:47 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by gr8photos:
i use this nifty tool. i am still looking for a comment generator, any useful website suggestions are welcome. :)
I found this random Virus Warning generator. If you enter the appropriate terms, you can probably adapt it, at least for negative comments.
I haven''t tried myself, but you might do a search for "Mad-Libs" the name of the first book to offer up fill-in-the-blank genre of literature.
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/3/2002 4:15:21 PM. |
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07/03/2002 04:15:59 PM · #52 |
LOL! thanks, GeneralE, i'll try that. :)
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by gr8photos:
[i]i use this nifty tool. i am still looking for a comment generator, any useful website suggestions are welcome. :)
I found this random Virus Warning generator. If you enter the appropriate terms, you can probably adapt it, at least for negative comments.[/i]
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07/03/2002 04:19:48 PM · #53 |
| i think some people are threatened by proclamations made with great certitude. it's a fact of life in the world. i'd take it with a grain. : ) |
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07/03/2002 04:26:19 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
i think some people are threatened by proclamations made with great certitude. it's a fact of life in the world. i'd take it with a grain. : )
What is very difficult is the written message cannot convey the voice inflections or eye contact that help a discussion. Then people are just left iwth putting their own emotion on something...sorta like a photograph :-)
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07/03/2002 04:56:14 PM · #55 |
| I found a "pattern" with hokie's comments: None! At least for my 3 submitted photos. :-) Thanks to jmseltzer, rvicente, and GeneralIE and everyone else who gave me comments on at least 2 out of the 3! I like comments. Good or bad. |
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07/03/2002 06:53:41 PM · #56 |
I am sure we all just mis-understood hokie when he said we were all bullshitting about caring about any technical aspects of a photo. And I think you took your point a little farther than I believe happens. I do not think people voted for "Shelter" or "Foliage" because they like seeing kids with umbrella''s or a leaf with water on it. I think these were technically flawless (or nearly so) photos of subjects that people are used to seeing as good photo subjects. My opinion is kind of the opposite.
People vote objects down that they are not used to seeing as art. Like a journalistic photo, or an abstract portrait. I think some people tend to focus on certain "norms". Portraits should look like this, landscapes like that.
Of course, part of speaking your opinion, is having others speak theirs back. Maybe you are taking things too hard yourself.
I know there have been several threads where I thought I was being supportive and reasonable, only to have readers believe I was saying the exact opposite of what I was attempting to convey.
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/3/2002 6:53:12 PM.
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/3/2002 6:58:23 PM.
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07/03/2002 06:54:22 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by gr8photos:
[i]i use this nifty tool. i am still looking for a comment generator, any useful website suggestions are welcome. :)
May I suggest this site. It's sutably inscrutable. |
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07/03/2002 07:20:08 PM · #58 |
Wow, what a thread! I find it interesting that two of my favorite dpchallenge artists have completely opposite views... and both seem reasonable depending upon one's perspective. I think it shows that much does depend upon one's perspective. Probably one of the reasons for such disparity of opinions is that the rules are vague about what it means to meet the challenge topic. Therefore it is left to the interpretation of the artist and the judge.
I try to keep the challenge topic as a solid constraint for my shots, but I really enjoy when someone has a creative interpretation of the topic. Differentiating between someone's "creative" interpretation -Vs- someone trying to sidestep the topic is quite subjective. I try to error on the side of leniency, but if I am convinced that they are sidestepping the challenge, which in my mind violates the spirit of the challenge, then I am likely to score lower.
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07/03/2002 07:43:24 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by hokie:
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
[i]i think some people are threatened by proclamations made with great certitude. it's a fact of life in the world. i'd take it with a grain. : )
What is very difficult is the written message cannot convey the voice inflections or eye contact that help a discussion. Then people are just left iwth putting their own emotion on something...sorta like a photograph :-)
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So when do we all get together?? |
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07/03/2002 07:52:04 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by KDJohnson:
Originally posted by hokie:
[i]Originally posted by magnetic9999:
[i]i think some people are threatened by proclamations made with great certitude. it's a fact of life in the world. i'd take it with a grain. : )
What is very difficult is the written message cannot convey the voice inflections or eye contact that help a discussion. Then people are just left iwth putting their own emotion on something...sorta like a photograph :-)
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So when do we all get together??[/i]
Well said KD!!!
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07/03/2002 07:59:11 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by sheyingshi88:
Originally posted by gr8photos:
[i]i use this nifty tool. i am still looking for a comment generator, any useful website suggestions are welcome. :)
May I suggest this site. It's sutably inscrutable.
-The "Toad-O-Lator", What a helpful bloke. He said everyone here has a point. |
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07/03/2002 08:46:18 PM · #62 |
BTW ..I never used the word "pattern" in my original comments. That is something other folks have added in an attempt to spin the original comment.
I said that people vote for what they like (like I do as well), justify their vote in their comments (like I do) and this could be seen in their votes and comments.
All the complicated talk of titles on photos affecting this or that or meeting a challenge or not was really skirting the issue of people simply voting for what they like. And I said this was cool and it is..I am glad people vote that way over some technical goble-di-gook..
Then other folks started to add the pattern talk..not me. :-
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07/03/2002 08:51:03 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by hokie:
BTW ..I never used the word "pattern" in my original comments. That is something other folks have added in an attempt to spin the original comment.
I said that people vote for what they like (like I do as well), justify their vote in their comments (like I do) and this could be seen in their votes and comments.
All the complicated talk of titles on photos affecting this or that or meeting a challenge or not was really skirting the issue of people simply voting for what they like. And I said this was cool and it is..I am glad people vote that way over some technical goble-di-gook..
Then other folks started to add the pattern talk..not me. :-
Reminds me of discussions about politics. :-)
PS - Yes, I TRY to be objective, but when it boils down to it, if I like a picture you made, it will score higher with me than if I don't like it. Confession sure is good for the soul. I feel so much better now. :-)
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07/03/2002 11:29:24 PM · #64 |
I added the pattern, how else could you prove your point, without finding a pattern? I was not trying to be malicious, just consice.
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/4/2002 6:07:41 PM.
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07/04/2002 05:33:25 PM · #65 |
Is it normal for people to vote down pics if they think it broke the rules? I'm not talking about meeting the challenge topic or not. I thought that's what the DQ process was for. If a pic is still on the page at the end of the week then it probably didn't break the rules, and how fair is it to rate it low just because you can't figure it out?
Guess you can tell that I'm a little frustrated ;o)
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07/04/2002 05:37:07 PM · #66 |
| Oops. Needed a disclaimer there. Zeissman, I didn't misunderstand you to say that you do score them lower. You just brought up the point so I was wondering if others are as open minded as you ;o) |
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07/04/2002 08:20:50 PM · #67 |
| If a photo does not meet the challenge, I score it lower. After all, this is not just another photo contest where you enter anything you wish. You have been assigned a subject or theme to capture for the voters to see how well you can follow instructions with your photo skills. I likely would not give a 1 - 3 for an excelent shot, but it won't get an 8 - 10 either. I like trick shots too but if I have to study for 10 minutes to figure out what the heck it is it will get a low score too. |
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