Thanks to John Setzler! - DPChallenge Forums

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

07/14/2005 08:52:17 PM · #1

I hope I'm not being presumptuous (or pre-emptive??) by expressing my gratitude to John Setzler for making two recently concluded photo projects, entitled "Alphabet Soup" and "A Picture Alphabet", a resounding success. There were 24 other participating DPCers, who I'm sure would share in that gratitude. (Please, if you're one of them, chime in here...)

John took the initiative approximately 6 months ago to launch and manage the above-mentioned projects. Through a series of DPC forum postings, he coordinated the activities of 26 geographically-distributed DPCers, each of whom contributed one hi-resolution image for each project. The products of these individual efforts were combined by John to produce a couple of very impressive-looking final images, as seen here:

and

(BTW, they look MUCH better as 20 X 30 inch prints! :-)

Over the 6-month period, John had to keep after the participants to hold up their end of the bargain (i.e., send him their images!). In addition, each photographer had to send John a signed release form that allows every photographer participating in the projects to freely market and distribute the final products in unmodified form.

So, this is my "public" thanks to John for his efforts and "stick-to-it-edness" for coordinating these projects.

If you're interested in learning more about the trials and tribulations of the projects, just read through the DPC forum link above. In the end, I'd say it was all worth it - but I wouldn't blame John Setzler if he breathed a huge sigh of relief when it was all over ;-).

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

07/14/2005 09:02:53 PM · #2

The result is beautiful. Congrats to all who participated, and kudos to John for coordinating the effort.

dclarke

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 II

07/14/2005 09:19:58 PM · #3

I downloaded them today and was extemely happy and proud to be a member of the group. Thank you John and the rest of the participants.

thatcloudthere

Canon EOS-1D

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

07/14/2005 09:26:57 PM · #4

Darn, of course...I forgot to thank John for his hard work.

Thanks, John!!

It really does look great...

Skip

Canon EOS-1D X

Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM

07/14/2005 09:30:15 PM · #5

awesome work, people! hope you all make some money off it!

LindaLee

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

07/14/2005 09:31:50 PM · #6

Very cool you guys! Looks like all of the hard work and coordination on your project really paid off, the posters are terrific. Congratulations to all of you who participated.

Linda

jenesis

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

07/14/2005 10:06:24 PM · #7

Yep, Thanks John. ;-)

07/14/2005 10:08:38 PM · #8

does evreyone who participated in this get a share in the sales? and why didnt John put it up in his DPPrints?

Message edited by author 2005-07-14 22:09:00.

07/14/2005 10:16:06 PM · #9

Originally posted by di53:

does evreyone who participated in this get a share in the sales? and why didnt John put it up in his DPPrints?

Everyone who participated has rights to market and distribute the prints, without modifying them in any way, including John. It's possible that not everyone will choose to do so via DPCPrints.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

07/14/2005 10:22:16 PM · #10

but if only one person gets to put it in dpcprints .. shoudlnt that have been John?

Seems like since he was the one who got it all together he should have been the one to put it up on dpcprints.

Message edited by author 2005-07-14 22:26:39.

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

07/14/2005 10:28:33 PM · #11

Nice work, and congratulations to all, and especially John, for getting it done.

Hmm...is this a good time to bring up the other projects which have fallen into limbo? I sure would like to move the animal and dog project to finish...

07/14/2005 10:31:27 PM · #12

Originally posted by di53:

but if only one person gets to put it in dpprints .. shoudlnt that have been John?

Yes, but I don't believe only one person can sell the print from DPCPrints, ...at least that's what I assumed. If it is the case that only one copy of this can be sold, I'll pull mine and the project team should coordinate how we sell them.

07/14/2005 10:32:48 PM · #13

yeah only one person can sell a photo at a time on DPCPrints..

Originally posted by lenkphotos:

Originally posted by di53:
but if only one person gets to put it in dpprints .. shoudlnt that have been John?

Yes, but I don't believe only one person can sell the print from DPCPrints, ...at least that's what I assumed. If it is the case that only one copy of this can be sold, I'll pull mine and the project team should coordinate how we sell them.

Message edited by author 2005-07-14 22:33:44.

07/14/2005 10:43:53 PM · #14

Originally posted by di53:

yeah only one person can sell a photo at a time on DPCPrints..

Originally posted by lenkphotos:

Originally posted by di53:
but if only one person gets to put it in dpprints .. shoudlnt that have been John?

Yes, but I don't believe only one person can sell the print from DPCPrints, ...at least that's what I assumed. If it is the case that only one copy of this can be sold, I'll pull mine and the project team should coordinate how we sell them.

Thanks, Di. Could you please quote the ruling, or place a link to it? I can't locate it within the DPCPrints FAQ.

Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC for Canon

07/14/2005 10:56:10 PM · #15

I"ll leave it up to you to talk to John about it ...

Discraft

Canon EOS-20D

07/14/2005 11:03:34 PM · #16

John thanks a lot for putting up this great project...
I think you had hard times and good times... But at the end here is the result of a great time of effort and work... If it wasn't for you there would not be this beautiful thing we all accomplished together.
It was a pleasure to do this with you leading the pack. Hope someday you will come up with another ideia and hope i can be there to help you.
Thanks to everyone how helped make this possible...
Overal a big thanks to everyone. :)

07/14/2005 11:06:28 PM · #17

Originally posted by di53:

I"ll leave it up to you to talk to John about it ...

My question has nothing to do with John. How do you know that only one person can upload a copy of an image for sale in DPCPrints? If anyone else here can show me where it states this, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

07/14/2005 11:17:27 PM · #18

I know that someone else tried to put it up on dpcprints and was told no because you already had ...

that person can come forward if they choose...but that person is very reliable.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

07/14/2005 11:17:50 PM · #19

We'll have to talk to the admins about it, because while we each have an equal right to sell it, it sems stupid to have 26 copies of these big files there, and 26 people competing for sales.

But unless we all agree to a standardized price and develop a way to divide up the 50% photographer's share, I don't think there's an alternative.

07/14/2005 11:19:08 PM · #20

Originally posted by di53:

I know that someone else tried to put it up on dpcprints and was told no because you already had ...

that person can come forward if they choose...but that person is very reliable.

Please tell that reliable person to go ahead. I've just pulled mine.

Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

07/14/2005 11:20:01 PM · #21

exactly General and I feel its wrong for one person only to take the profits from it and advertize its there here in the forums. Any sales of the picture should be put on hold until admin makes a decision on this. Its still my opinion that John should be the one who should have it on DPCPrints as he did all the post-processing and pre-photography work.

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Message edited by author 2005-07-14 23:22:02.

jmsetzler

Sony Alpha a6000

07/14/2005 11:22:53 PM · #22

I just put mine up on DPCPrints. They got approved a few days ago but I never went back to check until today. I'm not sure what decision was made about multiple users selling the same prints, but I'm assuming it's ok since mine got approved as well as Len's.

Anyway...

I'm glad it's finished. As for future projects, I just don't know. This one proved to be a lot more difficult than it should have been. I would love to do another one, but I seriously doubt I would coordinate another one with more than just a few participants. I discussed an idea a while back with bear_music that I am still thinking about, but I need to talk to him again sometime in the near future to see if he's still interested in the idea.

Thanks for the compliments and I'm glad everyone seems to be happy with the results....

John Setzler

jmsetzler

Sony Alpha a6000

Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

07/14/2005 11:23:54 PM · #23

Originally posted by lenkphotos:

Please tell that reliable person to go ahead. I've just pulled mine.

Put them back up... there is some confusion about the information you are receiving here :)

jmsetzler

Sony Alpha a6000

Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

07/14/2005 11:25:07 PM · #24

Originally posted by GeneralE:

But unless we all agree to a standardized price and develop a way to divide up the 50% photographer's share, I don't think there's an alternative.

I just priced mine the same way Len had his priced. Seems standard and fair enough for me...