Disqualification notice? - DPChallenge Forums

Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

09/23/2003 11:56:13 AM · #1

I received a notice stating that my submission for the macro challenge had been recommended for disqualification by atleast one member, first of all I can't say which one is mine, but I do not understand how anyone would think that it was done outside the rules of dpchallenge, second, I feel that this is my best submission yet and I would hate to think of it being disqualified. I submitted the original with a brief discription as to what had been done (black and white, despeckle, sharpen, border) My question is how long does it take to hear back from them, and will they let me know either way or if my submission is not disqualified will I not be notified but it simply won't be removed.

jab119

09/23/2003 12:01:10 PM · #2

They are pretty quick to respond and usually its a nice note saying they verified the image and its ok and still in the challenge. Or im sure they will tell your pic has been DQ'd and removed from the challenge.

I would give them at least 2 days to respond before you get too worried.

If you followed the rules then you are doing ok.

James

vonautsch

Nikon Coolpix B500

09/23/2003 12:11:42 PM · #3

The new system probably still has bugs in it because I had a disqualification request on my Insects entry, but I never heard from anyone after I replied with my original photo. I was never DQ'd. So you may not hear anything unless it is DQ'd.

Message edited by author 2003-09-23 12:12:15.

marmik

Sony DSC-F717

09/23/2003 01:49:09 PM · #4

I also recieved a diqualification notice. This is only my second submission. I am pretty proud of the picture . No spot editing just got lucky!! My first challenge submission really stunk!! LOL!! I know the rules about no spot editing, and I wouldnt cheat to win!! ( Winners Never Cheat, and Cheaters Never Win) Everyones heard it. I also dont think I am any competion in this challenge. I still have a lot to learn. I submitted the form they sent me. I also hope I hear back soon, but in the mean time you kinda have a real dirty feeling like you have just been accused of plagerism, or stealing, or something like that.How do you defend yourself?? I submitted the original and explained how I got the shot. What more can you do?? I think if someone wants have a pic disqualified they should have to submit thier name also explain what it is about the picture that they think has been spot edited. I think everyone could behave like adults, and hey!! we could learn from one another some new techniques.Who KNows!!

HBunch

HP PhotoSmart 315

09/23/2003 01:56:39 PM · #5

When a photo get a DQ request, we see it, and then we vote on weather or not to request proof. It could be something real simple. For example, the desaturation effect. Yeah, it's perfectly legal, BUT it CAN also be done by illegal methods. How are we to know which is which unless it's blatently obvious. A request for proof means nothing. We really don't DQ that many photos. Just submit your proof, and we'll handle it. If you're legal, don't worry about it.

jmsetzler

Sony Alpha a6000

09/23/2003 01:58:55 PM · #6

Originally posted by hbunch7187:

Whoever validates the photo should send a note back to the photographer to let them know it has been validated. This hasn't been happening :(

Kamlan 28mm F1.4 MF for APS-C

09/23/2003 05:10:48 PM · #7

I have another question concerning the disqualification process...When a person hits the button to recommend disqualification on the voting page, is that the end of the process for them or do they have to fill out a form stating why the photo should be disqualified, if so it would be nice to have that information when you are notified because I just can't figure out what the reason could be or what they thought I could have done.

Manic

DJI Mini 3 Pro

09/23/2003 05:53:59 PM · #8

Originally posted by Shannon:

When a person hits the button to recommend disqualification on the voting page, is that the end of the process for them or do they have to fill out a form stating why the photo should be disqualified

Once you click on the 'request DQ' link, a popup appears in which you must give your reason(s) for the request. Once submitted, the Site Council use this text (which effectively becomes the body of the DQ request) in order make their decision on whether to DQ, not DQ, or request validation from the photographer.

As for passing this text onto the photographer, I'm not too sure, since in my opinion the DQ system needs to be anonymous as much as possible. To give you a rough idea, about 95% of DQ requests are about photos being taken outside the time period, or about added text, or about illegal effects (eg certain filters or spot editting). Therefore, the original photo (with EXIF if the camera supports it) along with details of how you created the submitted image are all that we need in most cases.

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

09/25/2003 10:56:49 PM · #9

It has been over two days since I received the notification and submitted my original and I still haven't heard anything, is it safe to assume that my photo is not being disqualified??

faidoi

Pentax K10D

09/25/2003 11:04:10 PM · #10

Originally posted by Shannon:

It has been over two days since I received the notification and submitted my original and I still haven't heard anything, is it safe to assume that my photo is not being disqualified??

I waited a couple of days on my nostalgia picture and there was no response. It's still there so I guess it was fine.

It would have been nice to know why a DQ was requested. I'm still assuming it was because of desaturation.

Message edited by author 2003-09-25 23:06:17.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/25/2003 11:16:50 PM · #11

I agree it would be nice to know why the dq was requested, they could put that information in the email notice without letting you know who nominated you, I guess all that matters is that it is not disqualified but it has been driving me crazy trying to figure out why someone recommended it for disqualification. It's a basic black and white photo, just cropped, adjusted brightness and contrast, sharpened and despeckled and added a border. Anyway, it's still there so I am assuming that it is o.k.

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

09/26/2003 12:14:12 AM · #12

Originally posted by Shannon:

I received a DQ request on my current entry as well, Shannon. It's a fairly straightforward shot, not unlike yours, I assume, and I have no idea why anyone would suspect it.

I've followed procedure, and haven't heard either. It's been barely a day though, for me.

It looks like these requests are made more frequently than they used to or, at least, a far as I can tell. I've never come across one before (myself) in any other challenge.

Koriyama

Nikon D200

Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f2.8D

09/26/2003 12:50:53 AM · #13

I, too, received a DQ request.

It's too early to say whether DPC are being slow or not in processing my reply. But I wonder what's the average number of DQ requests a challenge gets and, of those, how many are actually illegal?

I'm wondering if someone is going around DQ-requesting for a lark, or if this challenge is unusual in that this thread has sprung up?

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/26/2003 12:52:57 AM · #14

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

09/26/2003 12:55:10 AM · #15

I'd estimate we typically get between DQ 3-8 requests per challenge, and that 1-4 get disqualified, MOSTLY for being out-of-dates or added text (not a date-stamp from the camera), and occasionally for being illegally edited.

This thread shows up every 2-3 weeks, as soon as someone who's never seen a version of this thread gets a DQ request.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

09/26/2003 12:57:08 AM · #16

Also, the mechanism by which we put out the requests for verification and vote on the photos has been undergoing a major revamping over the last couple of weeks, so there are going to be some glitches in what was already an imperfect system.

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/26/2003 01:01:24 AM · #17

well, I'm ok with it.

Koriyama

Nikon D200

Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f2.8D

09/26/2003 01:23:03 AM · #18

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Thank you for your prompt answer.

Originally posted by GeneralE:

This thread shows up every 2-3 weeks, as soon as someone who's never seen a version of this thread gets a DQ request.

Maybe it's my mood, but I feel that the tone of this reply is either sarcastic or painly rude.

I've been a member here since June and reasonably active in the forums. I can't remember such an explicit thread, and, after a quick manual check of the past forums (there's no search facility), I couldn't find a relevant thread.

I'm sure that this topic has been discussed before. If it is so relevant to a lot of people, as you suggest, then maybe there should be a faq set up to answer it. That would be better than insult people's questions or their memories.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

09/26/2003 01:35:00 AM · #19

Sorry, not at all meant to be insulting, but I'm pretty sure I've seen related threads recently.

I am inclined to be sarcastic at times, although I believe one reason most people are disturbed by it is because it does present an element of truth couched in possibly insulting terms. I'll try to reserve its use for those "truly deserving" moments.