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06/10/2004 11:30:57 PM · #1 |
I am just trying PS Elements for the first time and can't find "curves". Is this something not included in Elements or do I just not know where to find it? I looked in the manual and it is not listed in the index. Thanks for all help!
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06/10/2004 11:41:36 PM · #2 |
I don't think it's there...if I remember correctly from my short, 30 day trial version. Sorry...:o(
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06/10/2004 11:43:09 PM · #3 |
| No curves in Elements. None. Not there. Ain't got it. Nunca. Nein. Nada. |
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06/10/2004 11:46:13 PM · #4 |
Oh, no!! So I have to have the PS 7 or CS to have that??? How important does anyone think that is for someone still just learning? I really appreciate the help and opinions!
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06/10/2004 11:48:21 PM · #5 |
| I work exclusively with Elements. I've enjoyed it for almost a year. It has 80% of the bells and whistles of PS at a fraction of the cost. Sure, I'd like curves and layer masks and such, but until my photographs improve dramatically, or I start shooting RAW (which might happen now, come to think of it) I won't be upgrading any time soon. You can do a LOT in Elements! |
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06/10/2004 11:53:03 PM · #6 |
| Paint Shop Pro - 8 has curves. It was about $60 after a $30 rebate. I often use both programs on the same image. |
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06/10/2004 11:58:51 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by boomer:
I work exclusively with Elements. I've enjoyed it for almost a year. It has 80% of the bells and whistles of PS at a fraction of the cost. Sure, I'd like curves and layer masks and such, but until my photographs improve dramatically, or I start shooting RAW (which might happen now, come to think of it) I won't be upgrading any time soon. You can do a LOT in Elements! |
I think that is the key -- I need to wait until my shots equal the software. Thank you!!!!!!!
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06/11/2004 05:35:18 AM · #8 |
try the windows version of GIMP
it has everything that PS has including curves (some things use different names but it is all there)
and it is FREE!!!!
there are lots of tutorials on the net and all the PS ones can be adapted to suit GIMP as well
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06/11/2004 08:10:14 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by Kylie:
Oh, no!! So I have to have the PS 7 or CS to have that??? How important does anyone think that is for someone still just learning? I really appreciate the help and opinions! |
I use Curves only sporadically, often you can achieve a similar effect using Levels if you play around with the middle slider. The only effect I know of that you can only achieve with Curves is if you're going for a metallic look, like in the capital 'E' here (inspired by Scott Kelby's book PS7 Down & Dirty Tricks):
But for this you not only need Curves but also Channels which PS Elements doesn't have, I think. Don't know if there would be a work-around to do something like this in Elements. And of course, you could also try GIMP as already pointed out.
Message edited by author 2004-06-11 08:10:42. |
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06/11/2004 09:25:05 AM · #10 |
If you are really missing curves and don't want to make the larger investment in CS, then you might look for something like this.
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06/11/2004 09:41:25 AM · #11 |
I turned this  (by soup) into this  using a curve like this  |
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06/11/2004 09:53:49 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by nicoledb:
Originally posted by Kylie:
Oh, no!! So I have to have the PS 7 or CS to have that??? How important does anyone think that is for someone still just learning? I really appreciate the help and opinions! |
I use Curves only sporadically, often you can achieve a similar effect using Levels if you play around with the middle slider. The only effect I know of that you can only achieve with Curves is if you're going for a metallic look, like in the capital 'E' here (inspired by Scott Kelby's book PS7 Down & Dirty Tricks):
But for this you not only need Curves but also Channels which PS Elements doesn't have, I think. Don't know if there would be a work-around to do something like this in Elements. And of course, you could also try GIMP as already pointed out. |
How do you do the metallic effect in curves?
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06/11/2004 10:04:49 AM · #13 |
Curves is not included in PSE2, but you can add it and a lot of other cool tricks.
See here: Hidden Elements
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06/11/2004 10:22:56 AM · #14 |
I use curves in EVERY single image I work on.
Sometimes I use ONLY curves.
It's that important!
I'll echo what someone said before about using Gimp, which is now available for Windows. I tried it out a couple of days ago, and seems pretty good. It's completely free and does almost everything Photoshop does, and more. If I get time, I might put a tutorial up. |
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06/11/2004 10:24:56 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
I use curves in EVERY single image I work on.
Sometimes I use ONLY curves.
It's that important!
I'll echo what someone said before about using Gimp, which is now available for Windows. I tried it out a couple of days ago, and seems pretty good. It's completely free and does almost everything Photoshop does, and more. If I get time, I might put a tutorial up. |
I agree with the first part. A tutorial would be most appreciated, as I opened up GIMP once or twice and found it quite confusing to use after using PS since v. 2.0 ... |
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06/11/2004 10:25:04 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Konador:
How do you do the metallic effect in curves? |
Create the letter you want to work with. Give it some moderate Gaussian Blur. Then use a squiggly 'M' kind of shape curve for the metallic effect. |
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06/11/2004 10:49:05 AM · #17 |
someone take away that man's Curves ;) ..
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06/11/2004 10:54:11 AM · #18 |
So is this a post in support of curves or demonstrating that you don't need them ? :)
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06/11/2004 11:03:27 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Originally posted by Konador:
How do you do the metallic effect in curves? |
Create the letter you want to work with. Give it some moderate Gaussian Blur. Then use a squiggly 'M' kind of shape curve for the metallic effect. |
Not to be a burden, but could you put up a screen shot or something that shows what that squiggly 'm' kind of shape curve might look like? Or better yet...a tutorial perhaps??? Thanks! :o)
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06/11/2004 11:10:14 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Originally posted by Konador:
How do you do the metallic effect in curves? |
Create the letter you want to work with. Give it some moderate Gaussian Blur. Then use a squiggly 'M' kind of shape curve for the metallic effect. |
Not to be a burden, but could you put up a screen shot or something that shows what that squiggly 'm' kind of shape curve might look like? Or better yet...a tutorial perhaps??? Thanks! :o) |
I have loads of tutorials I'd like to write, and I'm afraid this one is way down on the list... why don't you try it though? Create a HUGE letter in Photoshop, Give it some Gaussian Blur, and just open the curves window and experiment. Keep the top-right and bottom-left points and go mad with everything in-between. You'll soon get it.
Bob |
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06/11/2004 11:36:26 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Originally posted by Konador:
How do you do the metallic effect in curves? |
Create the letter you want to work with. Give it some moderate Gaussian Blur. Then use a squiggly 'M' kind of shape curve for the metallic effect. |
Not to be a burden, but could you put up a screen shot or something that shows what that squiggly 'm' kind of shape curve might look like? Or better yet...a tutorial perhaps??? Thanks! :o) |
I could do a tutorial maybe over the weekend, but I don't know how to include screen shots! Anybody know an easy way to make screen shots within Photoshop? |
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06/11/2004 11:40:56 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by nicoledb:
Anybody know an easy way to make screen shots within Photoshop? |
Under Windows, you use Alt+PrtScrn to put a copy of the current window into the paste buffer. You then just open a new Photoshop document (the size will automatically be set to the size of the image in the paste buffer) and choose "Paste". You can then crop/resize it as necessary. (More details here using "Microsoft Paint", but the concept is the same. I don't recommand anybody actually use MS Paint!)
Message edited by author 2004-06-11 11:41:48. |
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06/11/2004 11:43:42 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by EddyG:
Originally posted by nicoledb:
Anybody know an easy way to make screen shots within Photoshop? |
Under Windows, you use Alt+PrtScrn to put a copy of the current window into the paste buffer. You then just open a new Photoshop document (the size will automatically be set to the size of the image in the paste buffer) and choose "Paste". You can then crop/resize it as necessary. (More details here using "Microsoft Paint", but the concept is the same. I don't recommand anybody actually use MS Paint!) |
Okay, thanks, I'll go ahead and see if I can write down what I did to create the effect I posted somewhere else in this thread. |
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06/11/2004 12:23:24 PM · #24 |
Thank you all for the help, and it looks like some other good ideas came up for other people, too. The people here on DPC are so great!
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06/11/2004 12:27:40 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Originally posted by Konador:
How do you do the metallic effect in curves? |
Create the letter you want to work with. Give it some moderate Gaussian Blur. Then use a squiggly 'M' kind of shape curve for the metallic effect. |
Not to be a burden, but could you put up a screen shot or something that shows what that squiggly 'm' kind of shape curve might look like? Or better yet...a tutorial perhaps??? Thanks! :o) |
I have loads of tutorials I'd like to write, and I'm afraid this one is way down on the list... why don't you try it though? Create a HUGE letter in Photoshop, Give it some Gaussian Blur, and just open the curves window and experiment. Keep the top-right and bottom-left points and go mad with everything in-between. You'll soon get it.
Bob |
Hmmm, when I do that it just changes the colour :/
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