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I start in the middle of a sentence & move both directions at once  (John Coltrane)
I start in the middle of a sentence & move both directions at once (John Coltrane)
mcaldo


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Challenge: Music II (Advanced Editing VII)
Camera: Samsung GX-10
Lens: Pentax SMC DA 35mm f2.4 AL
Location: Tottenham Marshes - London
Date: Feb 11, 2012
Aperture: f/14
ISO: 200
Shutter: 1/125
Date Uploaded: Feb 12, 2012

Working on B&W and hunting scenes that might work well on conversion.
The light was really great on the day. Noise is probably excessive, but I didn't wish to spent too much time in PP, so I only curbed it down.
The almost alien mood to the scene goes well with some of Coltrane's stuff (not all, he also had less angular, warmer ways of playing). I think the quote could apply, to some extent, to my favourite jazz musician since I was 14, Sonny Rollins.

My tie with the title is actually about the footprints and the bike lane, which run opposite directions, but I think people will mostly see the diverging arrows. Not sure, probably it only makes sense for me.

Had some night street photography and some images from photographing a friend rehearsing with his band, but I realized last minute that they were a few hours out of the time frame, so I went for this.

Statistics
Place: 71 out of 84
Avg (all users): 4.8662
Avg (commenters): 7.4286
Avg (participants): 5.0612
Avg (non-participants): 4.7634
Views since voting: 697
Views during voting: 250
Votes: 142
Comments: 15
Favorites: 1 (view)


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02/24/2012 01:53:37 AM
Greetings from the Critique Club!

Like this shot a lot, but am siding with EL-ROI and have to admit that it's a) it's gorgeous and b) it's a shoehorn. And I';m aggravated for you that most voters didn't see what you were getting at, the rhythms in the lines and sinuous curves and funny little notes in between.

As you yourself say, 'either way I shall enjoy the trip.' Your work is very good, you have a marvelous eye and really seem to have a knack for b/w in particular. And when you do ribbon - because I really do believe you could, if you stick with it and just keep on there is nothing better than ribboning on your terms, as opposed to selling out for the vox populi.

Please keep on shooting and entering!

Feel free to PM me,

Susan

Feel free to PM me,

Susan
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02/20/2012 10:28:58 AM
I have trouble appreciating Coltrane's music, but I had no trouble at all seeing music in this image, both melody and rhythm. Perhaps some of us are wired more synesthetically than others, or perhaps some people just have rigid notions they can't get past.
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02/20/2012 07:17:57 AM
Thanks everybody for the nice comments!
That's what I was after, that's what I have got, V happy :)

Challenges provide a very specific context and opportunities.
It's interesting how some find that this is best met by images that obviously evoke in most viewers the idea of 'music', 'love', 'strangeness', 'giant marshmallows', whatever the challenge is about. That is, images that could work well without a title and challenge context, by evoking a concept the viewer is very familiar with and can readily recognize, and fill with their own meaning.
You need a pretty generic description to evoke in most people the illusion of a complexity which only exist in their specific experience. Family and love are very simple concepts, they become complex when you think of your own family, and of your own loved ones.

Make an image that very precisely depicts your love feelings, or your family relations, and show that to people.
You are more likely to challenge their personal idea of love and family than t evoke it.

Others see the challenge context as a springboard to illustrating even fairly complex concepts related to the theme, remarking how different people will feel differently about the same concept, even trying to introduce the viewer to something very specific.
This normally involves presenting viewers with something they are at least partially unfamiliar with. It's the prize of adding to the viewers knowledge, rather than evoking what the viewer already knows.
A musician might be able to encapsulate what he does in a single phrase, but it takes years and years for an excellent musician to understand fully what their style should be and get there, about that time most will also want to change it :)

I guess most people have a preference in one sense or the other, but have tried their hand at both approaches.
Most people like and admire images which can works without a title and a context. They are a great achievement, but in which type of challenges they really fit the bill?
Normal challenges or Free Studies? Opinions might differ..

I'd love to be a better photographer, so to convey more fully what I wish to convey. But often what I'd like to convey is not a one liner or an assist for the viewer to slam dunk their own way, not completely.
Perhaps I'll manage to put the two things together, and make photos which can at the same time evoke a simple concept and illustrate a very specific one for those who like to dig. Otherwise, I guess most people will still look at my images and find nothing.

Either ways I shall enjoy the trip :D

02/20/2012 12:24:15 AM
hard to believe I didn't comment earlier as I was one of your admirers. I find this fits the jazzy element... wonderful seeing (and hearing).
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02/20/2012 12:16:05 AM
Oh how nice. My kind of shot. :-) Something nice about 10 1's, huh? I can relate! :-)
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02/20/2012 12:11:54 AM
Beautiful flow.
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02/20/2012 12:09:15 AM
Yeah I thought it was yours.

Message edited by author 2012-02-20 00:09:26.
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
02/19/2012 06:24:29 PM
lovely complex rhythms
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02/19/2012 06:00:11 PM
nice one 9
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02/14/2012 08:54:07 AM
Great light, love John Coltrane
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02/13/2012 01:21:19 PM
Totally awesome shot brought down by your choice to shoehorn!
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02/13/2012 11:59:56 AM
Just spotted the footprints, a satisfying shot to look at, does it say music to me, no but so what.
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02/13/2012 08:18:57 AM
I like this, but um well, I guess you know.
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02/13/2012 08:12:00 AM
I don't know what the intention is but to me the curvature of the pavement looks like a guitar's headstock with the shadows acting as strings. Very nice take on the challenge.
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02/13/2012 01:02:08 AM
Actually,they sort of looks like cigarettes...
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