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06/28/2011 06:13:09 PM · #201 |
| Half the time I just think it is luck or what they are looking for at that particular moment. I've seen all kinds of really good stuff not published, that looks as good or better, than the stuff they chose. Maybe they put all the good stuff in a lottery and spin it and pull out photos. ;) |
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06/29/2011 10:37:19 AM · #202 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Up to my third rejection:
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I like this one! I wish the image cut to the bone more to reveal more of his emotional heart.
Message edited by author 2011-06-29 14:42:12. |
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06/29/2011 04:00:50 PM · #203 |
I was going to put my National Geographic entry in but the more I look at it the more I don't think it's that special. From a 6 it has gone down to 5.1 lol! Give me another day and I'll be looking at a 4.5 shot.
Message edited by author 2011-06-29 16:01:26.
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06/29/2011 04:35:18 PM · #204 |
Originally posted by hihosilver:
I like this one! I wish the image cut to the bone more to reveal more of his emotional heart. |
Is that done with a plugin which everyone but myself has? Topaz Reveal™: Brings out the emotional heart in your images. Only $79.95. Available for Windows, Mac, Linux, iPad, Android & Etch-A-Sketch.
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06/29/2011 05:17:02 PM · #205 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by hihosilver:
I like this one! I wish the image cut to the bone more to reveal more of his emotional heart. |
Is that done with a plugin which everyone but myself has? Topaz Reveal™: Brings out the emotional heart in your images. Only $79.95. Available for Windows, Mac, Linux, iPad, Android & Etch-A-Sketch. |
Did you need my coupon for that?!...;-P |
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06/29/2011 05:21:43 PM · #206 |
Originally posted by MargaretN:
Very interesting comments. Any noise usually heavily reduces the score at DPC so I guess we do everything to avoid it :) As to the originality of the shot that's the really difficult one to me. Especially for landscape shots. Since a lot of us are still learning just getting a decent long exposure shot is a great deal! I have seen Jenn's jetty shots before in long exposure so that made the figure the key to the difference but still not that original according to 1x commenters.
So how do you achieve originality in landscapes? If you look at the recently published images it seems to me these factors are significant:
- technical excellence - that does not mean no noise, just no noise if it does not support the image; I think this one is a given
- unusual perspective - still difficult to be original there, low angle with something interesting in the foreground is the most common approach
- weather - this is a big one as extremes of the weather always make the photo look more interesting but not easy to control! Auroras, storms are great.
- light - another given, related to the weather and critical to the interest of the photo; can be significantly exploited in PP (I mean light can make an otherwise common image uncommon)
- strong mood - this is often achieved by using B&W, less color make image look less busy and more gloomy
- composition - strong composition is another given, there should be a single point of interest (I call it minimalism in photography in its broadest sense)
- subject - a wrecked ship or a dead tree usually help, for some reason happy images are much less liked :/ Unusual landscape features help a lot.
- textures - this why long exposure is popular as it changes the texture of the water and can change the clouds too; these help create a mood
- very skillful editing - PP can almost entirely alter the image but there is a limit to making unoriginal shot original
These are my unorganized thoughts. As I am keen to improve my landscapes I keep on thinking about this. What other factors matter to make the landscape shot original and different from millions of other similar shots?
PS Just realized one more thing - a lot of the color landscapes recently published at 1x are almost duotones, this must be a way to reducing "busyiness" (being busy!) |
Hmmmmm...I don't know that closing the gap to zero between the dream and reality can be done through a laundry list...but I admire the effort you put into this writing...;-) |
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06/29/2011 06:58:25 PM · #207 |
Originally posted by hihosilver:
Originally posted by MargaretN:
Very interesting comments. Any noise usually heavily reduces the score at DPC so I guess we do everything to avoid it :) As to the originality of the shot that's the really difficult one to me. Especially for landscape shots. Since a lot of us are still learning just getting a decent long exposure shot is a great deal! I have seen Jenn's jetty shots before in long exposure so that made the figure the key to the difference but still not that original according to 1x commenters.
So how do you achieve originality in landscapes? If you look at the recently published images it seems to me these factors are significant:
- technical excellence - that does not mean no noise, just no noise if it does not support the image; I think this one is a given
- unusual perspective - still difficult to be original there, low angle with something interesting in the foreground is the most common approach
- weather - this is a big one as extremes of the weather always make the photo look more interesting but not easy to control! Auroras, storms are great.
- light - another given, related to the weather and critical to the interest of the photo; can be significantly exploited in PP (I mean light can make an otherwise common image uncommon)
- strong mood - this is often achieved by using B&W, less color make image look less busy and more gloomy
- composition - strong composition is another given, there should be a single point of interest (I call it minimalism in photography in its broadest sense)
- subject - a wrecked ship or a dead tree usually help, for some reason happy images are much less liked :/ Unusual landscape features help a lot.
- textures - this why long exposure is popular as it changes the texture of the water and can change the clouds too; these help create a mood
- very skillful editing - PP can almost entirely alter the image but there is a limit to making unoriginal shot original
These are my unorganized thoughts. As I am keen to improve my landscapes I keep on thinking about this. What other factors matter to make the landscape shot original and different from millions of other similar shots?
PS Just realized one more thing - a lot of the color landscapes recently published at 1x are almost duotones, this must be a way to reducing "busyiness" (being busy!) |
Hmmmmm...I don't know that closing the gap to zero between the dream and reality can be done through a laundry list...but I admire the effort you put into this writing...;-) |
I have to say that the emphasis on heart here has gone into overdrive. You can't learn technical aspects of photography with your heart! Using your brain would help a lot ;) |
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06/29/2011 07:00:59 PM · #208 |
Duplicate
Message edited by author 2011-06-29 19:13:02. |
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06/29/2011 07:06:30 PM · #209 |
I start afresh as I got my edits stuffed up again. Sorry. I am very surprised that nobody else commented on my reasonable analysis of aspects of good original landscape photography. I am sure most of 1x contributors and DPCers alike, put a lot of thought, and not just heart, into their shots.  gyaban goes to amazing length planning his shots. So what is wrong with using your brain?? |
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06/29/2011 09:24:44 PM · #210 |
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Message edited by author 2011-06-30 01:40:15. |
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06/30/2011 01:39:46 AM · #211 |
Originally posted by MargaretN:
I have to say that the emphasis on heart here has gone into overdrive. You can't learn technical aspects of photography with your heart! Using your brain would help a lot ;) |
Okay...like the Cheshire Cat then, Margaret, I'm going to disappear now and leave you with only a smile from my heart.
My best wishes for your efforts at 1x and otherwise.
-Mae
Message edited by author 2011-06-30 01:40:50. |
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06/30/2011 04:56:55 PM · #212 |
Just submitted a photo to 1X to see what the deal was. Got rejected (no suprise there), but strangely enough one of the voters comments was as follows:
"Photo nice enough, but terrible name -2 for the name"
Now, the name I chose for the photo is not offensive, or stupid, or childish/derogatory or anything like that. The reviewer just didn't like the name. .... and took points off for it.
Am I being unreasonable in being annoyed by this since IMO this is a photography website, is it not? |
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06/30/2011 11:47:57 PM · #213 |
I signed up, but didn't get a re-edit done and submitted - will still try in the upcoming week...
For someone with an overall average score below 5.0, I am not sure I don't need my head examined for even contemplating submitting to 1x, but... I've always said I'm either too stubborn or too stupid to quit (and some days it is hard to tell the difference!)
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07/01/2011 04:04:52 PM · #214 |
Originally posted by MargaretN:
So how do you achieve originality in landscapes?......As I am keen to improve my landscapes I keep on thinking about this. What other factors matter to make the landscape shot original and different from millions of other similar shots? |
@Margaret - The answer to your question may lie within the landscapes of this portfolio:
Alexandre Buisse
These landscapes pulsate because of his remarkable passion for mountain climbing. Clearly, these images express the holistic blend of ingredients between the passionate heart and the thoughtful mind...;-)
I have to thank Steve Hill for this example so that I may keep my own heart AND mind in the correctly aligned balance and not overdrive too much for one side or the other...;-)
@Jenn...I wanted to add that I thought you were so brave and smart to put your photo in the critique forum. Something we may all want to think about to better understand what works on that site and what doesn't.
@ gcoulson...since you didn't post the photo or the name...it's hard to have an opinion...;-/
Message edited by author 2011-07-01 16:41:07. |
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07/02/2011 05:17:42 AM · #215 |
Originally posted by hihosilver:
Originally posted by MargaretN:
So how do you achieve originality in landscapes?......As I am keen to improve my landscapes I keep on thinking about this. What other factors matter to make the landscape shot original and different from millions of other similar shots? |
@Margaret - The answer to your question may lie within the landscapes of this portfolio:
Alexandre Buisse
These landscapes pulsate because of his remarkable passion for mountain climbing. Clearly, these images express the holistic blend of ingredients between the passionate heart and the thoughtful mind...;-)
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Margaret, another landscape photographer on 1x to look at is John Parminter. He is lucky enough to live in one of the most beautiful parts of the UK so he has plenty of opportunities to shoot when the light is just right. Browse the forum topics on 1x and check out some of his posts, he writes a lot about how he has achieved the look in some of his images.
ETA: Check out his website www.viewlakeland.com and look at the image creation section. This may help you.
If it makes you feel any better, I joined 1x in 2007 when it was still called onexposure and still haven't managed to get a photo published! Not that I try very often, I have only submitted about 30 images in the 4 year period, but anyway, it may make you feel better!
Message edited by author 2011-07-02 05:20:16. |
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07/02/2011 07:36:52 AM · #216 |
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Originally posted by hihosilver:
Originally posted by MargaretN:
So how do you achieve originality in landscapes?......As I am keen to improve my landscapes I keep on thinking about this. What other factors matter to make the landscape shot original and different from millions of other similar shots? |
@Margaret - The answer to your question may lie within the landscapes of this portfolio:
Alexandre Buisse
These landscapes pulsate because of his remarkable passion for mountain climbing. Clearly, these images express the holistic blend of ingredients between the passionate heart and the thoughtful mind...;-)
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Margaret, another landscape photographer on 1x to look at is John Parminter. He is lucky enough to live in one of the most beautiful parts of the UK so he has plenty of opportunities to shoot when the light is just right. Browse the forum topics on 1x and check out some of his posts, he writes a lot about how he has achieved the look in some of his images.
ETA: Check out his website www.viewlakeland.com and look at the image creation section. This may help you.
If it makes you feel any better, I joined 1x in 2007 when it was still called onexposure and still haven't managed to get a photo published! Not that I try very often, I have only submitted about 30 images in the 4 year period, but anyway, it may make you feel better! |
Thanks, Sarah. I have been to the Lakes District and can relate to his photographs. It is all about light, isn't it. Everything else is secondary. I need to remember this.
PS I thought some of your photos would be easy 1x stuff, maybe you need help choosing? ;) (I mean it in a nice way :) |
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07/02/2011 07:51:26 AM · #217 |
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07/02/2011 08:04:50 AM · #218 |
I was about to take a different approach and send in my Kermit & Piggy poster from "Rejected movie posters" and then read the blurb about no text. Grumble, grumble...
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07/02/2011 08:25:10 AM · #219 |
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07/02/2011 08:31:59 AM · #220 |
Thanks Margaret I do appreciate the input very much. Here's my comments on those ones you selected.
Message edited by author 2011-07-02 08:33:44. |
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07/05/2011 12:31:59 PM · #221 |
Up to 4 rejections now. This one didn't take them long to give a thumbs down on.
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07/05/2011 03:41:54 PM · #222 |
My criteria for 1x submission was something that has a story and that wows me..still waiting for that to happen. :S
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07/07/2011 08:04:43 PM · #223 |
I entered this (without the border, 950 wide):
Waiting for the usual rejection. |
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07/07/2011 10:35:04 PM · #224 |
Originally posted by MargaretN:
I entered this (without the border, 950 wide):
Waiting for the usual rejection. |
I'm not so sure that will be rejected... When I first saw it on the front page I immediately thought it would be 1x material... So good luck and keep us posted.
I'm going to try to get out on Sunday afternoon to get some shots. The weather here has been nothing short of terrible for the past few weeks, so I've been kinda quiet on this thread. Hopefully I'll have something to share by Monday. Anyone else had any luck?
Message edited by author 2011-07-07 22:35:23. |
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07/07/2011 10:37:28 PM · #225 |
Originally posted by Sirashley:
I'm going to try to get out on Sunday afternoon to get some shots. The weather here has been nothing short of terrible for the past few weeks, so I've been kinda quiet on this thread. |
Bad weather in South Florida?? :) |
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